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re: Had a Conversation with a Flat Earth Believer Today

Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:35 am to
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:35 am to
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Holy crap. Holy crap. I think I have caused you to lose your entire mind.
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You're talking about the earth's light and our distance to the earth
Yes. If you apply the formula for apparent brightness of a point light source to a non-point light source, you will get nonsensical values. Case in point, the surface of the earth. I'm using your own logic here, it should be quite simple to follow along.

The earth appears quite bright from an airplane. I mean, you can see it from up there, correct? So there must be light coming from its surface. We can even give it a very low value like 0.1 lux from 36k feet. So at 18k feet it would be 0.4 lux, right?

9k 1.6 lux
4.5k 6.4 lux
2.25k 25.6 lux
1,125' 102.4 lux
550' 409.6 lux
225' 1638 lux
112' 6500 lux
56' 26,000 lux
28' 104,000 lux
14' 419,000 lux
7' 1,677,000 lux
3.50' 6.7 million lux

Why does it not work like that? Why does the surface of the earth instead seem to be pretty much the same fricking brightness regardless of your altitude?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:37 am to
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You say lights in our house don't appear brighter when we walk toward them.
Now we're talking about a source of light that approximates a point light source at a particular range of distances. Can you figure out why the light bulb appears brighter but the wall it illuminates does not?
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And you think the sun doesn't look bigger at sunset.
This is just fricking stupid.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7285 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:49 am to
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The earth appears quite bright from an airplane.
Your mind. Your poor mind.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7285 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:50 am to
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Can you figure out why the light bulb appears brighter but the wall it illuminates does not?
It's a tragedy to watch unfold. You've completely lost connection with reality.
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5844 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:52 am to
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love how you can see amazing constellations and light shows from the stars on Earth but go to the moon, you know closer to those things and the sky is nothing but pitch black.


Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7285 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:59 am to
That's photoshopped. I mean that's not even claimed to be a real photo. This is NASA's

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:03 am to
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It's a tragedy to watch unfold.
I don't know how you're able to watch anything given that your eyeballs have melted after looking at the 6 million lux surface of the earth.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:16 am to
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Gaggle
Come on, I know your troll game is stronger than this. You're not even trying anymore.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:47 am to
The earth is flat. You are wrong
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34092 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:24 am to
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He has a high IQ, is relatively immune to ridicule or social pressure in general, is honest with himself, analyzes things critically and rationally, and he took a deep dive and studied it.


No. Watching YouTube videos on this shite is not true research.

So you guya think it's more likely that we're just the only flat planet and somehow there's this great secret that every physicists, astronaut, air traffic controller, pilot, military personnel and politician are in on? Noones ever leaked anything.

But my major question- why the frick would anyone lie about the earth being round? What's the benefit to you thinking your flat earth is round?
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:37 am to
this doesn't take a genius to figure out.

flat earthers are a symptom of a distrust for the scientific community, and its growing politicization and weaponization.

fauci - 'attacks on me are attacks on science'

look no farther than the appearance of the the phrase 'trust the science' when the purpose of science is to quest it. you don't 'trust' it because for all our knowledge we really know nothing.

When you look at the psychology of it, it's understandable. Not to mention all of the BS floating around out there that's easily accessible (i.e. YT videos, movies, etc)


Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3690 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:48 am to
I have a friend that is like that. One of my better friends who is also hilarious. We all thought he was messing with us and playing along until one night at the bar. He went into detail in his theories about NASA being part of an organization designed to bring down Christianity and some war that has been waging for 500 years. Again, we were like nice troll job.

Then a week later, he sent a documentary that was 2+ hours long about a couple of his theories and was like hour 2 is where it gets really interesting. This guy has 5 kids and a great job and is reasonably smart. We make fun of him now for his theories but the sad thing is his shite gets closer and closer to the truth by the day.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14497 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:50 am to


Makes perfect sense.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16798 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:24 am to
There are flat earthy women in the world,
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:54 am to
Belief is a powerful part of the human experience; often defies the brain's rational apparatus.

Fella needs to get out more!

Put him in a plane to see the horizon for himself. International flight at 40k feet does it.

If defies his eyes, have him meet someone in Melbourne Australia or South Africa and explain why they are wearing coats to stay warm while he is sweating his azz off this time of year. Does sun's heat disperse unevenly on this flat Earth?

For that matter, why is the sun round? Moon? Yet, Earth takes its own shape different from celestial bodies around it? Why dat is?

Have him talk to any sea farer.

Have him show you the Earth's edge on Google map or explain why its creators are in on his flat Earth theory.

Can't get 25 people to agree on most things, yet hundreds of millions of people, in current time and past time, would have had to conspire to hide this flat Earth design. I was just visiting a monument to those who died trying to get to South Pole these last few hundred years. What a complex conspiracy!

Have him work at global logistics company like Fedex, UPS, DHL, Amazon to find these edges he proclaims.

Have him explain the poles and electromagnetism...seasons, why the need for satellites, and many more.

Most importantly, why does fella believe what he believes (not flippant, should reconcile what he knows and what he believes...are they in sync and why (are or are not))? Its healthy. God gave humans brains that are able to produce rational thought and beliefs. Why is that? And how I will end this.


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39878 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 6:30 am to
While at sea, I saw the sky turn green as the sun went down over the horizon. In short, the sun was shining through the water due to the curvature of the Earth.

Additionally, I have watched the masts of ships disappear over that same curvature.

Lastly, you can use math to determine the curve you are WITNESSING when that mast sinks over the horizon.
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
922 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 6:39 am to
How many pages you trying to go this time? This is deja vu
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33698 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 6:42 am to
Just want to go on record as saying you are batshit crazy. But Im just interested in your explanation as to how this works considering the sun is over 100 times bigger than the earth. What sort of mental gymnastics to you have to go through to reconcile this?


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Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76043 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 7:36 am to
Forget the size of the sun, how do you keep a consistent 24 hour day when the Tropic of Capricorn is significantly longer around than the Tropic of Cancer.

What’s the radius of light coming from the sun? Because based on that model shown we should get say close to 100% of the time most of the norther hemisphere.

We know in summer in the Southern Hemisphere the days get longer but based on that map the sun is away from each continent much longer on the outside ring of travel.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 7:37 am
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6710 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:18 am to
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Not a great map but close to this. The sun travels in a circle on a path that arcs between the tropics, creating day and night, the seasons, and constant dark/light in the poles.


What is the sun made out of? How did it form? What dictates its orbital path? How did all the stars form? Where do elements come from?
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