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Group that flew confederate banner over Talladega says NASCAR is being un-American
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:26 pm
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The Sons of Confederate Veterans complaining about something being "Un-American" is pretty damn rich.
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"NASCAR's banning the display of the Confederate battle flag by its fans is nothing less than trampling upon Southerners' First Amendment Right of free expression," Sons of Confederate Veterans Commander in Chief Paul C. Gramling Jr. said. "This un-American act shall not go unchallenged. [On Sunday], members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans' Confederate Air Force displayed its disapproval of NASCAR's trampling upon the First Amendment Rights of Southerners. During and before the start of the NASCAR race in Talladega, Alabama, race, our plane flew a banner announcing a drive to 'defund NASCAR.'
"It is the hope of the Sons of Confederate Veterans that NASCAR fans will be allowed the fundamental American right of displaying pride in their family and heritage. The Sons of Confederate Veterans is proud of the diversity of the Confederate military and our modern Southland. We believe NASCAR's slandering of our Southern heritage only further divides our nation. The Sons of Confederate Veterans will continue to defend not only our right but the Right of all Americans to celebrate their heritage. We trust NASCAR will do the same."
A banner, flying behind a plane over Talladega Superspeedway on June 21 ahead of the scheduled NASCAR Cup Series race, reads: "DEFUND NASCAR."
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NASCAR did not acknowledge the plane or the banner. Executive vice president Steve O'Donnell tweeted a picture Sunday of Black and White hands shaking: "You won't see a photo of a jackass flying a flag over the track here ... but you will see this ... Hope EVERYONE enjoys the race today."
Signs prohibiting Confederate flags were posted outside entrances at Talladega Superspeedway before the GEICO 500. It was the second NASCAR race to allow spectators in wake of the COVID-19 pandemic. Tickets were limited to 5,000 pre-selected fans.
Gramling said the flyover was paid for by the group's private donors. He said the decision harks back to 20 years ago, when the group flew over Chattanooga with protest messages when it had trouble hanging the flag in the city during conventions.
"What NASCAR did was a slap in the face to fans who made the sport what it is," Gramling said. "They don't know how upset they've made people with this decision. I really don't care what NASCAR thinks about what we did. It's the least of my concerns."
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The group might fly the banner over more NASCAR venues this season. Gramling said supporters loved the idea and reacted with excitement after watching it on television.
"We've had quite a bit of reaction," Gramling said. "It's been very well received by everyone except NASCAR. This is the hottest, quickest thing we've done to raise awareness of flag issues and to get a strong reaction in quite a while."
The Sons of Confederate Veterans say on their website that they're "preserving the history and legacy of these heroes so that future generations can understand the motives that animated the Southern cause" in the Civil War.
The national organization's headquarters is located inside Elm Springs, a two-story brick Greek Revival house built in 1837, just south of Columbia at 740 Mooresville Pike. The group has built a National Confederate Museum on the property. Its grand opening has been delayed by the coronavirus until fall.
The Sons of Confederate Veterans complaining about something being "Un-American" is pretty damn rich.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:27 pm to AHM21
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Group that flew confederate banner over Talladega says NASCAR is being un-American
Ironic....was that an American flag they were flying?
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:29 pm to AHM21
I think they need to do some brushing up on the first amendment.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:29 pm to AHM21
the most white "sport" there is is turning its back on its biggest supporters (by a massive margin) to placate a group that doesn't support them?
Nice business logic.
Nice business logic.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:30 pm to goofball
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Ironic....was that an American flag they were flying?
Yes it was unless we are going to revise what "America" means these days.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:31 pm to AHM21
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Confederate Air Force
Better watch your back and the skies, blackies.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:31 pm to Geauxboy
quote:In what way?
turning its back on its biggest supporters
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:31 pm to AHM21
Funny how these guys come out with a statement on a day when NASCAR is really struggling. Almost like it was set up from the beginning.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:33 pm to Geauxboy
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the most white "sport" there is is turning its back on its biggest supporters (by a massive margin) to placate a group that doesn't support them? Nice business logic.
This. There’s probably been more Confederate flags than black fans at NASCAR races through the years.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:33 pm to AHM21
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NASCAR's banning the display of the Confederate battle flag by its fans is nothing less than trampling upon Southerners' First Amendment Right
One of my pet peeves is how people today think the First Amendment applies to anything any group does nowadays, instead of its actual intent of protecting citizens against government.
He should speak to the guy on here who needed a Constitutional lawyer to protect him against Walmart greeters asking to see his receipt.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:33 pm to AHM21
While I don't necessarily disagree with the guy on the freedom of expression issues, the dumb MFer should have just kept his mouth shut as rational thinking was winning the PR war after Bubba Smollet's publicity stunt blew up in his face. Now, the usual suspects will use this story as a way to once again turn Bubba into a "victim" and paint the picture of ALL Nascar fans being racist rednecks that the media is desperately seeking to paint
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:34 pm to AHM21
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It is the hope of the Sons of Confederate Veterans that NASCAR fans will be allowed the fundamental American right of displaying pride in their family and heritage.
I apparently missed where there was a "fundamental right" to display a Confederate flag at a private corporation's sporting event in the Constitution or Bill of Rights.
I don't think I could roll eyes any harder.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:35 pm to Alt26
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Now, the usual suspects will use this story as a way to once again turn Bubba into a "victim" and paint the picture of ALL Nascar fans being racist rednecks that the media is desperately seeking to pay
That's the point. These guys are a tool. We are all being lied to. The news is scripted.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:36 pm to AHM21
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It is the hope of the Sons of Confederate Veterans that NASCAR fans will be allowed the fundamental American right of displaying pride in their family and heritage.
fricking idiots.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:37 pm to AHM21
If they really believe that shite they should just keep flying it over Nascar events, since the airspace is public and it's more visible up there anyway.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:39 pm to AHM21
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Sons of Confederate Veterans Commander in Chief Paul C. Gramling Jr. said
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Sons of Confederate Veterans' Confederate Air Force
Dang. I bet their dress up parties are killer.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:40 pm to AHM21
Sons of Confederate Veterans May be one of the only groups fighting to preserve these monuments and teaching about the history of the times. They do educational demonstrations at local schools as well.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:44 pm to bayoudude
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They do educational demonstrations at local schools as well.
That's frightening because I've read some of their newsletters and it is straight propaganda bullshite.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:47 pm to The Spleen
Did a canon and rifle demo at my kids school last year had all the old flags and discussed their meaning. Lots of parents attended as well. Just another reason why I moved here. Public school as well not to mention there is still prayer in our public schools here. I will fight tooth and nail to keep our way of life we have down here.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:48 pm to Sao
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Sons of Confederate Veterans' Confederate Air Force
Nothing says historical accuracy like the Confederate Air Force.
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