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re: Great Wealth Transfer is going in the wrong direction

Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2264 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:34 pm to
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This is honestly pathetic on the part of older Americans. The stock market went up like a rocket for most of their working careers. Where is all that money?


The fact they had a 20 year head start over every other generation and still managed to fumble the bag proves their incompetence. Quit taking any of their advice a long time ago and my life improved tremendously.
This post was edited on 7/19/26 at 5:42 pm
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59497 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:59 pm to
Let's say if I was waiting for the wealth transfer from my parents I would be screwed. I have taken my own initiative to create a good retirement for myself and my family.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79350 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 6:01 pm to
Rich get richer


Poor get poorer


If you aren't worth 100 million now you are poor and will keep getting poorer.


Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9551 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 6:09 pm to

The great wealth transfer has been from the middle class to the richest shareholders / investors.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31663 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

This is honestly pathetic on the part of older Americans. The stock market went up like a rocket for most of their working careers. Where is all that money?


The fact they had a 20 year head start over every other generation and still managed to fumbled the bag proves their incompetence.


Since you didn't read the article. Here is a little tidbit for you:

quote:

Boomers' retirement savings are often smaller than those of younger generations because 401(k)s and Roth IRAs became widely available later in their workplace lives. Even those lucky enough to have workplace pensions (7) or annuities often receive modest payments. According to the Pension Rights Center, the median annual benefit from private pensions or annuities was $11,440 in 2024.


You misunderstand how the financial system actually worked for Boomers. 401(k)s weren't created until 1978 and didn't become common until the 90s. Boomers spent the first 15 to 20 years of their careers without access to the tax advantaged accounts you younger generations take for granted. So Boomers didn't have the 20 year head start you think they did and a lot of them had their pensions frozen and slashed by the companies they worked for. And if you think it was easy to invest in the stock market, it wasn't. A Boomer had to set up an account which took the equivalent of $7500.00 in today dollars in the 70s, physically call a broker on the phone to place a trade and then pay the transaction fees which would be around $150 to $300.00 in today. Now anyone can download an app, open an account with a minimum amount of cash, buy $5 worth of a fractional share, and pay $0 in trading fees.

Not making excuses. Just pointing out it was not as easy to save for retirement then as it is now.




Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25692 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 6:32 pm to
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Boomers didn't save for retirement


Well no shite. The government held their hand too much, and made bankruptcy too forgivable. Credit card companies were too predatory. Everybody kicked the can down the road.

Now we're on the hook for that generation as well as our own. Plus a lot of the one after us.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
11109 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 6:41 pm to
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Just pointing out it was not as easy to save for retirement then as it is now.


Thanks for pointing this out. Excellent points.

Options were an even bigger pain in the arse to trade back in the day, the spreads were large, and the commissions astronomical. Today it’s like you’re on the floor but at home drinking your coffee.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40110 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 8:13 pm to
These threads are awesome.

It always brings out the halfwits that can't do math.

10% of 200T is still a ton of money and assets.

But keep watching CNN and CBS, and by all means, keep voting Democrat.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103516 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 8:28 pm to
You mean the selfish generation spent all their money and will leave their heirs with massive debt and still expect them to take care of them?

No way
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26997 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Not making excuses. Just pointing out it was not as easy to save for retirement then as it is now.


Agreed.

The dollars back then didn't lead to a high need for huge sums of retirement assets.

In 1970, an 18 year old would love to live off of $10k/yr with assets paid for (home/car).
What type of retirement is that 18 year old targeting as he/she starts their employment path. $100k-$200k?

As they aged, the annual funds were still low by today's standards (even if they doubled and tripled).

A disciplined 22 year old, today, can start a path towards $100k so much quicker than I could back in the 2000s. Duh.
My 16/17 year olds are making more than my wife did 25 year ago.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9948 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 9:47 pm to
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Meaning you could have millions in stocks and other investments but, technically speaking, social security is your only income.


Highly unlikely. I guess you could be 100% munis and only have tax-exempt interest income.

You will still get fricked with IRMAA though as tax exempt interest is added back to your income for the calculation.

But that’s a dumb tax strategy as you have the standard deduction to use up with dividends and interest.

Point being, don’t let the tax boogeyman drive your decisions. This approach keeps you poor and makes others rich.

We have historically low rates now so take advantage and be smart.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22346 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 9:53 pm to
I didn’t fail to plan. We will leave our two kids a sack of shekels.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13537 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Adult children are supporting cash-strapped boomer parents

Hogwash. More often not, the opposite is true.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151220 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 8:45 am to
quote:

maybe a nice windfall on sale of his paid off house.


hopefully there's no reverse mortgage!
on a similar note.

Reading Teech’s thread about the mother in law possibly needing long term care and moving in.

But several posters mentioned making sure to get a good elderly care attorney for a survivorship or whatever so the tax payers can ultimately pay for the Boomers care instead of selling off the assets they accrued over their lifetime for I assume to prepare to pay for the inevitable care.


Does that not sit wrong with everyone else?

How is this even a thing? No wonder our Medicare and Medicare expenditures are ungodly
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40110 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 10:32 am to
No, it isn't.



If you try to shield all the assets from the government so the individual can receive government-paid care, the government will quickly do a clawback and sieze the funds.

There's a bit more to it, but that's a quick summary.

Usually, the people that try crap like that are trying to keep MeMaw's double wide for themselves.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1177 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:50 pm to
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quote:
41% of boomers aged 65 to 79 still have mortgages,


Is this a product of the rising numbers of divorce? My plan was to have my house paid off at 48-50 years old, but had to refinance at 45 due to divorce property settlement.



A lot of them, including this one, refinanced at such historically low rates that it makes no sense to pay off the mortgage. My mortgage rate is less than inflation. If we do get to a point that we can't pay it, then it in effect becomes an investment vehicle for the kids, but it is very unlikely that we will reach that point.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1177 posts
Posted on 7/20/26 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

The great wealth transfer has been from the middle class to the Free shite Army, half of whom crossed the border during the last administration .


FIFY

SNAP
EBT
Obama Phones
Tax credits
Welfare
Non-payment for ER visits and other healthcare
Prison costs
Housing inflation as the demand at the low end ballooned
Ad infinitum
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