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re: Government buys 65 million two shot doses from Pfizer….for children

Posted on 10/16/21 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89760 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 4:19 pm to
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If the parents want their kids to get vaccinated and it makes them feel better and shut up and if the FDA approves it what’s the issue? If you don’t like the vax and don’t want your kids to get it, then don’t have your kids get it.


This isn’t what’s happening though and you know it.

This wouldn’t even be a thread if it was up to each individual to be vaccinated or not.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 4:23 pm to
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The main reason being that even though the risk of Covid to her is pretty low, the risk from the vaccine is orders of magnitude lower.


What? Did you suddenly go retarded or is this sarcasm? You must be copy pasting Storm2k if you really believe this.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53712 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 4:30 pm to
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We are on the call list with Texas Childrens once Pfizer gets FDA emergency approval.


Troll?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74848 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 4:38 pm to
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pretty low


as in almost non existent? congrats on virtue signaling through your healthy child. weird flex
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11554 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 4:58 pm to
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If the parents want their kids to get vaccinated and it makes them feel better and shut up and if the FDA approves it what’s the issue? If you don’t like the vax and don’t want your kids to get it, then don’t have your kids get it.



I don't think you understand what NANDATE means.

Most would agree with your sentiment but that's not what's happening.

We are being forced in to personal medical decisions by people that call others tyrants. And many people are too stupid to see it. Amazing

Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10990 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 5:16 pm to





my guess is that Pfizer is getting paid 45 billion dollars for this purchase. Anybody got a better guess?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 5:27 pm to
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as in almost non existent? congrats on virtue signaling through your healthy child.


But the risk from the vax is even lower than getting Covid. So why wouldnt I take the safer option for her?

Oh and virtue signaling using my child?

A) Its a thread about vaccines for kids. I shared what i was going to do.

B) Glad to see you see getting the Covid vax as a virtue.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74848 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 5:55 pm to
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But the risk from the vax is even lower than getting Covid. So why wouldnt I take the safer option for her?


again, you likely could avoid both risk by doing nothing considering the plummeting COVID metrics and vaccination rates.

and even if she does catch it, her odds of being hospitalized or dying are less than zero. In fact it’s several 0’s stuck behind the decimal place in 0.0%.


Which you know, so this is clearly some point your using your child to make to emphasize your stance that the vaccine side effects are a less likely risk than COVID on a LSU Sports forum board? or maybe IRL? Which no one in this thread, certainly not me, is arguing.

if not virtue signaling, what would you prefer to call it?
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 6:51 pm
Posted by kfaulk03
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
1494 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:11 pm to
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But the risk from the vax is even lower than getting Covid. So why wouldnt I take the safer option for her?


For this to be a logical thought, you would need to currently be forbidding your child from:

-utilizing any sort of automobiles, bicycles, etc
-you should be petitioning to have every swimming pool filled in immediately
-your child should never be in a room without you as it’s more likely they die from blunt trauma inflicted by a family member
-never ever come into contact with any sort of packaging, otc medicines

I mean this list is endless and so preposterous it’s hard to even play devils advocate. You basically are a moron.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10728 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:27 pm to
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But the risk from the vax is even lower than getting Covid. So why wouldnt I take the safer option for her?


Tell me what the 5 year and 10 year potential side effects of the vaccine are? Oh, we don't know. Tell me how it affects growth and going through puberty? Oh, don't know. Why do people not understand that we don't know a lot about potential effects? I hope there are none, ever, but for now we just don't know, so my kids won't get anywhere near this thing. It's not necessary. One already had it (kind of had a headache, never fever), the rest of us didn't even get it despite not trying too hard to not. Just live healthy (I say as I sip bourbon).
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4215 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:51 pm to
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The risk to children is miniscule


But we don’t really know this.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42279 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:57 pm to
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But we don’t really know this.


Yes we do. The risk from the vaccine outweighs the risk of the virus for kids.
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
624 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:05 pm to
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The FDA conducted a rigorous evaluation of the of post-authorization safety surveillance data pertaining to myocarditis and pericarditis following administration of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and determined that the data demonstrate increased risks, particularly within the seven days following the second dose. The observed risk is higher among males under 40 years of age compared to females and older males. The observed risk is highest in males 12 through 17 years of age. Available data from short-term follow-up suggest that most individuals have had resolution of symptoms. However, some individuals required intensive care support Information is not yet available about potential long-term health outcomes. 

LINK

Parents should spend a lot of time reading the FDA documents before vaccinating their children. After all, the immune system is an intricate one and altering it with a vaccine should not be done unless truly warranted.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13046 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:10 pm to
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But the risk from the vax is even lower than getting Covid

Is it really? Do we know that for a fact for kids?

Here's a thought: how many times has your child been exposed to COVID since the start of the pandemic? Has she been sick? Does she have any existing health conditions?

I honestly don't care what you do with your child. If you honestly think it's the safest route for her, then that's you. But I don't see how anyone could come to that conclusion if they are being rational, unless their child has some kind of existing condition that makes them more susceptible to COVID.

But then you would have already been taking every precaution possible, including limiting her contact with just about anyone.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30452 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:21 pm to
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my guess is that Pfizer is getting paid 45 billion dollars for this purchase. Anybody got a better guess?


I little under $1.3 billion for 65 million doses of Pfizer.
Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
3714 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:22 pm to
EUA and approval are two different things. Even the one everyone is getting now isn't 100% approved, it has the EUA tag on it. It takes years before a real approval is granted.

So my issue is if it gets a EUA, then where is the emergency?
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56295 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:26 pm to
I won’t vaccinate my son until my pastor tells me it’s safe to do so.
Posted by shackleford318
Altoona, pa
Member since May 2020
708 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:38 pm to
You’re mistaken, we borrow money from”international bankers” believe it or not. We call them the fed but they’re actually a group of private bankers. Makes sense doesn’t it? Borrowing money being as wealthy of a country we are.

We we’re sold out a long time ago (1913)
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30452 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:43 pm to
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Yes we do. The risk from the vaccine outweighs the risk of the virus for kids.


Just on a statistical level that depends on which data set you use and if you select for age and gender. Most people feel not doing something is the de facto safer option in almost every situation barring some other inputs.

Previous poster:

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Tell me what the 5 year and 10 year potential side effects of the vaccine are?


We are equally in the dark about COVID infections.


As for COVID vaccine mandates for children, I think they are ridiculous. This is primarily because I think the risk/benefit analysis is rather similar for both individually and there is very little communal benefit.


The biggest potential unintended consequence as a result of mandates for any age is that if we ever find ourselves in a much worse pandemic there will be a significant number of people who will be much more likely to refuse any measures designed to prevent the spread of infection.
Posted by shackleford318
Altoona, pa
Member since May 2020
708 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:44 pm to
90% will be tossed, the rich getting richer.
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