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re: Got a serious question for the OT: got caught cheating on a paper
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:12 pm to Tunasntigers92
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:12 pm to Tunasntigers92
I saw it referenced in other posts and just assumed.
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:47 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I could teach way more and get the students to learn way more in a lecture than I ever could just telling them to write a paper
But how do you know? You don't write papers..
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:49 pm to ClampClampington
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But how do you know? You don't write papers..
He also doesn't know how World War 1 started or who was on each side. And yet he wants to teach history.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:53 pm to StringedInstruments
He doesn't go to Vanderbilt. That's just the logo he chose. His user name suggests Arky. That seems more likely.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:57 pm to OMLandshark
Didn't even have to check his explanation for plagiarism. That shite came straight from somewhere in his imagination
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:08 pm to ThatMakesSense
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Don't admit shite.
He doesn't have to admit shite. If it's the same paper then the prof has all the proof she needs.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
There is some VERY bad advice in this thread.
OP, the professor is NOT A COP. She has irrefutable proof that you plagiarized. She doesn't need you to admit anything.
It doesn't matter how much you deny. If her plagiarism detector returned a 99% match, then you cheated.
Do NOT walk into her office with an attitude. Do NOT walk in being defensive and denying. Do NOT try to verbally, mentally, or physically intimidate her. Do NOT ignore her request for the meeting; it won't make it go away.
The only thing you can do is be contrite and apologize. Hell, maybe she'll just make you redo it. Maybe she'll fail you. Those are best case scenarios.
Do not go in with Law and Order TV suspect bullshite. It will just piss her off and she'll push to have you kicked out.
OP, the professor is NOT A COP. She has irrefutable proof that you plagiarized. She doesn't need you to admit anything.
It doesn't matter how much you deny. If her plagiarism detector returned a 99% match, then you cheated.
Do NOT walk into her office with an attitude. Do NOT walk in being defensive and denying. Do NOT try to verbally, mentally, or physically intimidate her. Do NOT ignore her request for the meeting; it won't make it go away.
The only thing you can do is be contrite and apologize. Hell, maybe she'll just make you redo it. Maybe she'll fail you. Those are best case scenarios.
Do not go in with Law and Order TV suspect bullshite. It will just piss her off and she'll push to have you kicked out.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:30 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
God damn you are dumb. Prime example of why we have too many colleges
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:07 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
you should go into politics
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:11 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I'll let you weigh the pros and cons of lying for yourself, but you owe it to the girl to shield her from blame and just say it was in a stack of notes she took the semester before that she gave you to study from, not cheat from, before the class started.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:50 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Tell the teacher that the girl helped you write the paper and suggested you write on the same topic since she had already researched it. Although it turned out the same, that was not your intention and you did put in the work. You guys had short discussions throughout and came to the same conclusions. Essentially you guys wrote the paper together and shared ideas.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:54 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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it's not the I hate writing meaningful papers. I'm talking about a class tgat forces me to write 4 4 page papers when it's over bull shite.
If you're a senior, you ought to have a pretty good connection for Adderall now. Hit a couple of those, and you should be able to pump out 4 pages on absolutely any topic without even noticing.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:07 pm to OMLandshark
quote:archduke Ferdinand getting assassinated is what started it. You're correct in that I was mistaken on which side that Russia was on in ww1 but that doesn't mean I don't know history. I'm sure I know more about history than you do.
He also doesn't know how World War 1 started or who was on each side. And yet he wants to teach history
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:08 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
actual professor here
i caught a student doing the same exact thing you did
i wrote her a strong email that
-her paper was exactly like one i graded last semester, word for word, from another girl in her sorority
-that while this might not be enough proof of plagiarism (it was), the university usually sides with the professor under these circumstances
-we have two options 1) go to university dean for a hearing which could mean expulsion if shes found guilty or 2) take a 0/100 on the paper
she emailed me back a few minutes later pleading for a zero and apologizing profusely.
i caught a student doing the same exact thing you did
i wrote her a strong email that
-her paper was exactly like one i graded last semester, word for word, from another girl in her sorority
-that while this might not be enough proof of plagiarism (it was), the university usually sides with the professor under these circumstances
-we have two options 1) go to university dean for a hearing which could mean expulsion if shes found guilty or 2) take a 0/100 on the paper
she emailed me back a few minutes later pleading for a zero and apologizing profusely.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:10 pm to Swoopin
quote:to the original op I've already decided I'm just going to tell the teacher that she let me view her paper as a guide to writing my own and that in an act of laziness and stress I decided to copy her paper and only make a few slight changes and that she deserves zero blame for what I did. I will then tell her how I know it's wrong and I'll never do it again, and that I was just really stressed had alot on my plate and made a mistake I regret.
'll let you weigh the pros and cons of lying for yourself, but you owe it to the girl to shield her from blame and just say it was in a stack of notes she took the semester before that she gave you to study from, not cheat from, before the class started.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:11 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:
write 4 4 page papers when it's over bullshite.
Wait is this four (4) papers that are only four (4) pages???
Good thing you don't have any legit lab classes. Four pages gtfo
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:11 pm to rocket31
quote:this is what I'm Hoping for honestly.
take a 0/100 on the paper
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:12 pm to Muice
quote:4-8 pages is what each paper is supposed to be length wise without counting citation. The teacher is kind of weird though in that she prefers single spaced
Wait is this four (4) papers that are only four (4) pages???
Good thing you don't have any legit lab classes. Four pages gtfo
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:14 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:
this is what I'm Hoping for honestly.
most professors dont want to get the dean involved, its a headache for us too. paperwork, time, etc
so the 0 on the assignment is what i am assuming will be the result
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:16 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
You deserve to be expelled...sorry.
Hit reset for a year or two and hopefully you can work your way back in. I just find it remarkable you would turn something in that is practically a word-for-word duplicate.
Hit reset for a year or two and hopefully you can work your way back in. I just find it remarkable you would turn something in that is practically a word-for-word duplicate.
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