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Goldman Sachs: Curing disease is bad for the Medical-Industrial Complex

Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:59 pm
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Recent advancements in science and medicine have put cures within reach for diseases that have long plagued humankind. In a recent report, though, Goldman Sachs analysts posed an uncomfortable question that quickly sparked criticism.

“Is curing patients a sustainable business model?” analysts asked in an April 10 report entitled “The Genome Revolution,” which CNBC first reported. One-and-done cures enabled by gene editing, analyst Salveen Richter wrote in the note to clients this week, are near-miraculous innovations that stand to benefit patients immensely.

But they also present a challenge to business. “While this proposition carries tremendous value for patients and society, it could represent a challenge for genome medicine developers looking for sustained cash flow,” she wrote.

The trouble is, it’s hard to reap long-term profits when you’re actually curing the patients who would buy your treatment. The report points to Gilead’s treatments for hepatitis C, which cure more than 90 percent of patients. In 2015, at the height of sales, US sales of the drug hit $12.5 billion. But as people have been cured, sales have fallen. Goldman estimates US sales for Gilead’s hepatitis C treatments will be less than $4 billion this year.


I think we already knew this, it's just that they've never stated it so brazenly before.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:00 pm to


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Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:02 pm to
This is my shocked face

Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:04 pm to
Next up, man creates fire. Details coming up at 6.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:07 pm to
He makes a good point

All those polio-treating doctors are having a tough time making a living


Should we really be saving lives if it affects the bottom line?

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:11 pm to
So we should be more concerned with saving their jobs than saving people's lives?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:12 pm to
Next you are going to tell me that food companies conspire with the medical field to keep us sick and create vertical integration for profits
Posted by Count Chocula
Tier 5 and proud
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:13 pm to
Oweo, just curious. Are you a liberal, share the wealth kinda guy?
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18551 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:15 pm to
He’s a research analyst. He has a certain amount of companies to watch within a specific subgroup and decide which of those are good deals. It’s not a surprise he doesn’t find this a “good” deal for clients and investors.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:16 pm to
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Next you are going to tell me that food companies conspire with the medical field to keep us sick and create vertical integration for profits



Listen to this man, he knows what he’s talking about.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62721 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:16 pm to
Just think if cancer is cured with a vaccine.
Look at all the billions that go into to cancer research, and cancer centers across America that would be effectively obsolete.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36111 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:17 pm to
Kill all the sick bastard’s and be done with it !!!!!


j/k

I’m in remission, and they made a small fortune off of me....
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted by YungFO
Dallas
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:25 pm to
I think it's about time we put the overall health of humanity as a bigger concern than corporate well being.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:30 pm to
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I think it's about time we put the overall health of humanity as a bigger concern than corporate well being.



Someone has to pay for the research.

What I mean by that is - someone has to come up with the money that will persuade young undergrads to pursue a career that will, along with paying their food and electric bills, will also lead to these breakthroughs.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:30 pm to
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In 2015, at the height of sales, US sales of the drug hit $12.5 billion. But as people have been cured, sales have fallen. Goldman estimates US sales for Gilead’s hepatitis C treatments will be less than $4 billion this year.


ONLY $4B this year. Poor things.

I'm torn on this. On one hand, I would absolutely love to be able to cure diseases that ravage people, like cancer and Alzheimer's. On the other hand, people are already living too long, and world population will be unsustainable much more quickly if cures are found. It's a slippery slope either way.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4485 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:57 pm to
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Goldman Sachs: Curing disease is bad for the Medical-Industrial Complex


Posted by Morty
Member since Feb 2018
2252 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 4:58 pm to
Just transition to long-term care and adult diaper investments. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
128950 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:02 pm to
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Just think if cancer is cured with a vaccine.


And antivaxxer idiots would still refuse.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:13 pm to
I know this isn’t a popular opinion on this board, it it’s a good argument for making medical R&D more of a public sector thing and less of a private sector one.

The public sector actually has a strong incentive for saving lives (larger tax base) where, as we can see, the private sector doesn’t.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 5:15 pm to
so much more $$$$ for Medical industry for Cancer not to be cured.
Medical industry has billions and billions at stake with cancer
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