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re: Godspeed the crew of Artemis II...Re-Entry takes place tonight

Posted on 4/9/26 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 3:06 pm to
I'd venture to guess that the two most dangerous parts of the mission are going up and coming down. So yeah they probably are a bit nervous
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 3:30 pm to
They usually have plenty of operations or experiments to conduct
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 3:42 pm to
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I'd venture to guess that the two most dangerous parts of the mission are going up and coming down. So yeah they probably are a bit nervous


Especially as they are coming down in a pod whose heat shield is known to be defective. They are altering the glide path trying to limit damage. So they are coming down with a “trust me bro.”

They didn’t find out about it till it was already installed on 2. Three and beyond will have the repaired heat shield.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 4:05 pm to
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They didn’t find out about it till it as already installed on 2. Three and beyond will have the repaired heat shield.
NASA never learns, do they? It'll be great when A2 splashes down but if they burn up, the Chinese get the lunar South Pole. At least they're open about their willingness to turn their astronauts into Peking Duck. Reid was pretty emphatic about getting messages to his family today. They know.

The other thing mentioned with the leaking and how they'd have to redesign it. The A3 SM is already on its way to Florida so they are having to bring engineers over to make changes to it and then implement the changes at the production site for A4. You've got to wonder if they can be confident in landing on the moon during A4 if it's the first time that re-engineered capsule flies.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 4:18 pm to
You KNOW they are thinking about how NASA noticed the damage to Columbia at launch and decided it was okay then too.
Posted by mailman85
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 4:50 pm to
LOL.. do people really believe this happened
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 5:10 pm to
You know you really need to be careful. The internet and cell phones are how the government tracks and monitors you.

Probably best if you fricked off to a cabin off the grid to evade detection and targeted manipulation.

Or not.


Just the site would be a better place if you posted less.

This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 6:22 pm to
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LOL.. do people really believe this happened
What, that the defective heat shield was installed on 2 and they know the risk and went with it anyway?
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 7:32 pm to
I'm really tired of the "what would you say to them?" questions the politicians and media keep asking. This crew has been great about finding different colors of paint to answer that question. I do like how NASA went with politicians connected to their facilities/the crew.

It was great to hear Lovell (the perfect choice on Monday) but it would've also been great to find a morning for a greeting from Buzz. Maybe even for NASA to stick their fingers onto the flat earthers' eyes from high orbit last Wednesday.

ETA: Kind of cool that this new MC shift has someone who went to a rival high school of mine. Still not gonna hang around to watch it. I believe they're now done with PAOs. Watching people pack is neither educational OR entertaining.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 7:42 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:00 pm to
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Reid was pretty emphatic about getting messages to his family today. They know.


They know what? What kind of morbid fan fiction are we writing in here?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:00 pm to
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Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:06 pm to
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They know what? What kind of morbid fan fiction are we writing in here?


They are coming back on a heat shield that while it landed, had multiple and massive failures on Art 1.

Instead of it evenly coming off from the surface, pressure built deep in the layer causing large chucks to come off.

Artemis 1 came back heavily pockmarked.

I do NOT think anything will happen. But you’d have to be stupid for it not to be on your mind.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 8:09 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:16 pm to
I am not familiar with Orion's heat shield issues.

With OV-102 (Columbia), there was a real-time incident. Where NASA dropped the ball and then kicked it OOB was not listening to the lower level engineers who tried to tell them an impact event of that sort had never been observed before.

NASA's senior mgmt did nothing. Ham - think that was her name.

Let's hope in this case, there's been time to really assess worst-case heating and effects, and they're comfortable with their analysis.

ETA: I think Isaacman is astute enough to understand technical analysis, physics, probabilities, etc and unless someone was concealing data of some sort from him, I don't think he would've let Artemis launch unless he considered it within acceptable risk. Lot riding on this mission.
This post was edited on 4/9/26 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:25 pm to
Is there a link to the heat shield issue?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:29 pm to
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Is there a link to the heat shield issue?


Only thing I've seen is here.

Had heard there were issues with the previous Orion flight. Did not kmow they carried over to this mission.
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:36 pm to
It's already been addressed by two others so I'll just add... This crew saw Challenger as young kids. They were young adults when Columbia disintegrated. They had a front row seat to A1. They know they are not coming back the safety track record that Dragon has.

We all want this to be a nominal return but it feels a bit closer to the flip of a coin when you factor in A1 and NASA's "go fever" track record. I trust that Isaacman made the best decision for NASA, the country, and the crew. His assistant director and Jeff the Recovery manager sounded like they were already planting a few seeds if it does go sideways. Probably nothing but it felt off.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:38 pm to
Here is a link:

LINK

Again, I feel things are being overdramatized from my original meation. I think they are fine. But you’d be an idiot to think they aren’t thinking about Columbia.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:39 pm to
I found this
LINK

Really seems odd that they'd frick around with something like this. Seems like a Go/No Go point, way before the launch was even considered. Like, if we're not 100 (99.9999%?) sure the heat shield can withstand reentry with a HUGE margin to spare, it shouldn't get past the development stage.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 4/9/26 at 8:39 pm to
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Had heard there were issues with the previous Orion flight. Did not kmow they carried over to this mission.


Same heat shield. They’ll fix it on later missions. Only thing different from Artemis 1 they are doing in consideration for the shield is changing the reentry angle.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69191 posts
Posted on 4/9/26 at 9:02 pm to
So they just said “frick it” and gave them the exact same heat shield or did they make improvements?
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