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re: Girl Scouts: Your Daughter Doesn’t Owe Anyone a Hug. Not Even at the Holidays.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:18 pm to PrettyBird
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:18 pm to PrettyBird
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And yes, I've seen kids be told to go hug strangers.
I’ve never seen or heard of anyone telling their kid to do so until this tread.
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:19 pm to ProbyOne
Ok
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:20 pm to PrettyBird
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Not forcing your daughter or son to go hug someone equates to them eventually being cold, miserable and friendless?
What a jump there.
Uh, this is in response to an article insinuating that hugging family members during the holidays leads to potential sexual assault and rape?
Who's making a jump?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:21 pm to PrettyBird
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You have no idea who I am and in fact I do have kids. And yes, I've seen kids be told to go hug strangers.
You've told me enough. I know You don't have kids because you are completely oblivious to the absolute most baffling and annoying thing parents deal with on a daily basis. Don't tell me how to raise my kid. No one wants to hear that and if you had kids you'd realize that the moment you said "Parent's should" your audience went straight to Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this has crushed your credibility...
I love seeing a fight for feminism and war against the objectification of women (which is clearly bad) being done by people with medically enhanced breasts.... "Don't obejectify me, but hey look at me..."
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:21 pm to xiv
quote:Right. Telling girls that it's a girl problem. It isn't either.
...on the ____ Scouts’ website.
You're getting there.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:22 pm to blueboy
I don’t see anything wrong with her not thinking she owes anything if it’s like fast food or Waffle House but if I’m gonna shell out 40 bucks of my hard earned money give me a break here
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:25 pm to PrettyBird
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My only issue here.. is this idea that if you aren't affectionate then you aren't thankful. Just because a kid doesn't come hug you doesn't mean they aren't thankful.
Why can't saying "thank you so much, this means so much to me and I appreciate this gift" be acceptable?
Younger kids usually can’t articulate that, and physical affection is so nice. When a little one comes and throws their arms around you you don’t think it’s particularly sweet?
A peck on old aunt Gertrude’s cheek or a hug for uncle billy isn’t going to hurt them and it will mean a lot to the person receiving it. Tying it to something sexual is just gross and wrong.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:26 pm to rintintin
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Uh, this is in response to an article insinuating that hugging family members during the holidays leads to potential sexual assault and rape? Who's making a jump?
My point exactly. The jump wasn't hugging a stranger, it was the insinuation that hugging a stranger leads to the pole and selling skin.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:30 pm to xiv
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Not the point. Making kids hug adults that they don’t want to hug is creepy.
Kids not WANTING to hug family is a sign that the parents did something wrong. PERIOD.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:47 pm to rintintin
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Uh, this is in response to an article insinuating that hugging family members during the holidays leads to potential sexual assault and rape?
Who's making a jump?
Agreed - that jump is obnoxious as well.
My only point has been - I agree with the idea of not making a child hug someone. Period.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:48 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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You've told me enough. I know You don't have kids because you are completely oblivious to the absolute most baffling and annoying thing parents deal with on a daily basis. Don't tell me how to raise my kid. No one wants to hear that and if you had kids you'd realize that the moment you said "Parent's should" your audience went straight to Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this has crushed your credibility...
I love seeing a fight for feminism and war against the objectification of women (which is clearly bad) being done by people with medically enhanced breasts.... "Don't obejectify me, but hey look at me..."
lol wut
Posted on 11/13/18 at 2:50 pm to fr33manator
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I don’t understand how parents can require anythjng from their kids. I mean, that gives the wrong ideas about consent. And not just consent, but AFFIRMATIVE consent.
They not only have to agree to eat their broccoli, but unless they enthusiastically want to devour their broccoli and are constantly reaffirming that fact, and don’t regret it later...well that’s basically vegetable rape
I remember seeing an article that someone posted here saying that parents should ask their baby/toddler before changing their diaper because not doing so makes the child think they don't have a choice and won't realize later on that is not ok.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 3:16 pm to PrettyBird
You keep accusing people of making large jumps, yet you're doing the same. Where is the line where kids can do whatever they want because they're uncomfortable?
3 year old -
"Mommy, I want to eat donuts all day, vegetables make me uncomfortable"
"Mommy, I want to stay up watching cartoons till 2am, sleep makes me uncomfortable"
"Mommy, my private parts make me uncomfortable, I want to change them"
One of your jobs as a parent is to make sure your child has social interaction, and hugging a relative at Christmas is healthy. Unless, your creepy uncle is a known pedophile. It's not like you're locking them in a closet unattended.
You people need metal health counseling.
3 year old -
"Mommy, I want to eat donuts all day, vegetables make me uncomfortable"
"Mommy, I want to stay up watching cartoons till 2am, sleep makes me uncomfortable"
"Mommy, my private parts make me uncomfortable, I want to change them"
One of your jobs as a parent is to make sure your child has social interaction, and hugging a relative at Christmas is healthy. Unless, your creepy uncle is a known pedophile. It's not like you're locking them in a closet unattended.
You people need metal health counseling.
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 4:55 pm to fr33manator
quote:Youre the one taking that leap. I’ve said nothing of the sort.
You and your ilk are the one who are equating having your child hug aunt Mildred when she gave her $100 to rape and sexual assault.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 5:52 pm to blueboy
frick all feminists.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 6:01 pm to xiv
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Youre the one taking that leap. I’ve said nothing of the sort.
You are in full fledged support of an article and a worldview that suggests exactly that.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:02 pm to xiv
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Girl Scouts: Your Daughter Doesn’t Owe Anyone a Hug. Not Even at the Holidays.
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What in the F. We should not be raising kids to think that showing affection to their family members will result in or is somehow related to sexual assault.
Not the point. Making kids hug adults that they don’t want to hug is creepy
My mom made me hug my aunt and I caught a boner ..,,. Party on
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:42 pm to fr33manator
quote:Nah, just of not making kids hug who they don’t want to hug. You’re making stuff up, silly boy.
You are in full fledged support of an article and a worldview that suggests exactly that.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:45 pm to Amazing Moves
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frick all feminists.
Most are pretty ugly
Posted on 11/13/18 at 9:05 pm to PrettyBird
Its the job of adults to teach their kids the norms of social interaction and help them develop social skills. Hugging and embracing relatives and friends is not creepy or weird. Its a normal human behavior.
In a vacuum maybe, but I obviously made this comment in the context of this story. I do believe feminists are largely nasty, ugly, bitter people. I also believe they want young people to share their bitterness.
Its only a "jump" to an obtuse person with little abilty to apply critical thinking abilty
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It is a complete jump... telling a child that they do not have to give a hug if they do not want to =/= turning into a cold, heartless person as an adult. What?
In a vacuum maybe, but I obviously made this comment in the context of this story. I do believe feminists are largely nasty, ugly, bitter people. I also believe they want young people to share their bitterness.
Its only a "jump" to an obtuse person with little abilty to apply critical thinking abilty
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