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'Ghost' students have become an issue, making up 50% of enrollment at some schools

Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:51 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:51 am
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Ghost students
Across America’s community colleges and universities, sophisticated criminal networks are using AI to deploy thousands of “synthetic” or “ghost” students—sometimes in the dead of night—to attack colleges. The hordes are cramming themselves into registration portals to enroll and illegally apply for financial aid. The ghost students then occupy seats meant for real students—and have even resorted to handing in homework just to hold out long enough to siphon millions in financial aid before disappearing.

The scope of the ghost-student plague is staggering. Jordan Burris, vice president at identity-verification firm Socure and former chief of staff in the White House’s Office of the Federal Chief Information Officer, told Fortune more than half the students registering for classes at some schools have been found to be illegitimate.




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Santiago Canyon wound up dropping more than 10,000 enrollments representing thousands of students who were not really students, said Kim. By spring 2025, ghost student enrollments had dropped from 14,000 since the start of the spring term to fewer than 3,000.


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Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87566 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 9:59 am to
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By spring 2025, ghost student enrollments had dropped from 14,000 since the start of the spring term to fewer than 3,000.
good lord.

that number should be zero.

do they not require them to physically show up and present a valid ID?

nevermind..higher ed...
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10744 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:00 am to
And public universities keep building to teach liberal arts.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
468 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:02 am to
Easy solution.

Get rid of all federal financial aid.

Banks will figure it out before they loan millions to fake people.

And college tuition will plummet.

Win-win.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
31049 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:02 am to
I am sure the universities are diligently working to stop these "ghost" students and their sweet sweet financial aid disbursements.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9013 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:06 am to
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financial aid


Most don’t pay out financial aid, they just cut the cost and call it aid. If you never write a check it’s hard to get scammed.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36843 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:08 am to
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do they not require them to physically show up and present a valid ID?


This ain’t the 1960s on the parade grounds anymore baw. Class registration is all online
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3018 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:09 am to
When I started college, you were required to show up in person to meet with an advisor before you could register. And that was every semester.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3559 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:21 am to
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good lord.

that number should be zero.

do they not require them to physically show up and present a valid ID?

nevermind..higher ed...

I'm a professor at a University here in Louisiana, and we have to do what's called the 9th day census. We have to submit a report and identify any student that has not showed up and participated in class 9 days after classes begin. That individual is then dropped from the class. I haven't had a single issue of a "ghost" student in my classes yet.

I will say that some students sign up for extra classes and choose sections with popular professors even though they do not need that class. Those sections typically fill up very quickly. They then sell their seat to another student and coordinate the drop and add with each other before payment is made.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24603 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:22 am to
Criminals taking advantage of government programs? Unheard of.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10290 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:41 am to
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international fraud rings operating out of Japan, Vietnam, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Nairobi that have repeatedly targeted U.S. colleges.


Our students aren't smart enough to do this? Now THAT's a sad comment on our education system.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87566 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:42 am to
still i would think at some point in the process, an actual student has to show their ID IRL before they're officially in the system
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59185 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:56 am to
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Get rid of all federal financial aid.

Banks will figure it out before they loan millions to fake people.

And college tuition will plummet.
The govt should have never gotten into the loan business to start with. Everything the govt touches eventually goes to shite.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38698 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:56 am to
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do they not require them to physically show up and present a valid ID?



For online curricula? Why would they?

But I agree with this.

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that number should be zero.


Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21487 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:58 am to
Just get rid of loans altogether.

The only reason college is this expensive is because students can borrow unlimited sums of cash, which frees up universities to jack up tuition to whatever they want.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
31049 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:59 am to
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The govt should have never gotten into the loan business to start with. Everything the govt touches eventually goes to shite.



Thanks Obama
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38698 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:07 am to
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The govt should have never gotten into the loan business to start with. Everything the govt touches eventually goes to shite.



This started with the GI Bill. Direct student loans started in the 50s but then became government-backed and often subsidized student loans through private banks in 1965. The subsidies were related to the difference in interest rates.

Pretty much still the same thing, subsidized and unsubsidized student loans as well as subsidized and unsubsidized parent plus loans. Just a lot more students get them now, and a lot more have little or no intention of ever paying them off.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42979 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:52 am to
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till i would think at some point in the process, an actual student has to show their ID IRL before they're officially in the system


In California?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44507 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:01 pm to
How do the scammers get the $? Aid is paid directly to the school.
Posted by rs_la
Member since Mar 2023
120 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:14 pm to
Anyone downvoting this is part of the problem.
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