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re: Getting an 18 year old started in life & military

Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2614 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Maybe. Having started as combat arms before later transitioning to one of those jobs that are "relevant in the civilian" world, I'd tell him to do something fun and go blow shite up.

He can always use his GI Bill to learn one of those other jobs later.


I went in at 18 because "why not". At the last minute at MEPS the Sgt. Asked me "Hey you wanna be a paratrooper"? I said "sure why not".

I didn't go 'combat arms' but still held an airborne slot. It formed my attitude and gave me the drive to win and succeed under all conditions. I honestly did think I could make it through something like Ranger school so I didn't attempt it. Looking back, I was as tough as anyone I met.

Doing 3 tough years in combat arms as a high speed low drag person will help as much if not more than just an MOS he may or may not use.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2042 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Gay

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Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36364 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:29 pm to
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I took mines hungover... recruiter and my mother practically dragged me out the house.
Me and my buddy were drinking across from the recruiting center and got to talking about joining the military, we'd been discussing it off and on, and after a lot of beers we talked ourselves into walking over there and signing up. We walked into the army office because we wanted to be in the 101st because that's what his dad was in and I knew nothing about it other than Jimi Hendrix had been 101 so it was fine with me.

We walked in and told the recruiter that we were ready to sign whatever and ship out and he asked us if we'd taken the asvab. When we told him we hadn't he told us we were in luck because MEPS (had no idea what that was at the time) was 10 minutes away and he'd be happy to take us over.

So took it drunk and really no idea what it was and was at basic training at Benning 3 weeks later.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6090 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:29 pm to
Have him go down to the IBEW and get in the apprentice program. He’ll get paid to learn a trade that he can make money with the rest of his life.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10605 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:29 pm to
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“The world needs ditch diggers too.”


Yep. Every kid should have a nightmare job early in their life. A kid may think school sucks but the prospect of doing back-breaking, unrewarding manual labor for the rest of one's life gives a whole different perspective to how much effort you want to put into school.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
5880 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:30 pm to
My buddy from HS could never pass the asvab but still ended up having 4 kids of which 3 are his. Your son will be ok as long as you leave him with a house
Posted by jfturner212
1176 Bob Pettit Boulevard
Member since Nov 2004
5572 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:32 pm to
Does any MOS minus ATC transfer to the civilian world? Honest question. I was Marines so we were all idiots.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3545 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:40 pm to
I'm pretty sure the recruiter will tell you what you want to hear but it's probably 50/50 or lower you get your choice.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2672 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:43 pm to
Good choice
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
2042 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:44 pm to
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Does any MOS minus ATC transfer to the civilian world? Honest question. I was Marines so we were all idiots.

shite ton, Army does everything.
Plumber, carpenter, journalist, graphic artist….
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:48 pm to
Go to a trade school instead. Then take business courses and work towards starting your own plumbing or electrician or auto mechanic firm. I'd recommended doing it in a red state with good demographics like Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana.

Signing onto the 2024 US armed forces is a bad move. They are all captured at this point.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted by KCSilverTiger
KCMO
Member since Sep 2022
813 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:31 pm to
You should not have to study for the ASVAB if you graduate high school.
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1067 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:32 pm to
If local trade school is a option I greatly recommend this over military unless needs the discipline and maturing the military will give him.

Look into a electrical or trades MOS.
Such as:
GSE - Gas Turbine System Technicians Electrical (navy)
12R Interior Electrician (army)
91D Tactical Power Generation Specialist (army)
Marine Corps Electrician (MOS 1141)

many many more.

With this field when he gets out can find jobs and continue to develop and earn more.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
24999 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:37 pm to
If the kid actually wants to go to the military, I would just be a proud dad. So many advantages once you get out of the service. Or you can stay in and take the early arse retirement they offer.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42806 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:41 pm to
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People study for the asvab?
I don’t know how it is nowadays, but scratching your name on the asvab with a crayon was considered smug back in the day.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36511 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:46 pm to
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What have you all done in similar situations?


Take him on an Ayahuasca vision trip.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10783 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:49 pm to
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Marine Corps Electrician (MOS 1141)



Officer buddy of mine had this MOS when he was enlisted before going back to OCS. Good MOS to get into if that is what you want to do post military plus you got the network to lean on.

Posted by Tigerinasia
Natchitoches
Member since Jan 2008
1869 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:50 pm to
Have him get a job at least 30 hours per week, pay his own expenses or possibly a little rent, help out around the house and give him some time.
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1554 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:57 pm to
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I'd push him to national guard instead of full time military right now. Still get the basic training and MOS training, but gets their school paid when they get back home.


This is what my son did and he is about to graduate college. Besides being stuck on base during Covid, it has worked out well. He will be limited in MOS/Rating options though compared to active military, I believe.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70155 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:01 pm to
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People study for the asvab?
Flat-footed I scored the highest ASVAB score in my state my Junior year of High School.

In the late 70s no one was studying for it.

I could have gone anywhere in the country that had ROTC.
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