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re: Getting an 18 year old started in life & military
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:22 pm to Mr Breeze
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:22 pm to Mr Breeze
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Maybe. Having started as combat arms before later transitioning to one of those jobs that are "relevant in the civilian" world, I'd tell him to do something fun and go blow shite up.
He can always use his GI Bill to learn one of those other jobs later.
I went in at 18 because "why not". At the last minute at MEPS the Sgt. Asked me "Hey you wanna be a paratrooper"? I said "sure why not".
I didn't go 'combat arms' but still held an airborne slot. It formed my attitude and gave me the drive to win and succeed under all conditions. I honestly did think I could make it through something like Ranger school so I didn't attempt it. Looking back, I was as tough as anyone I met.
Doing 3 tough years in combat arms as a high speed low drag person will help as much if not more than just an MOS he may or may not use.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:29 pm to lepdagod
quote:Me and my buddy were drinking across from the recruiting center and got to talking about joining the military, we'd been discussing it off and on, and after a lot of beers we talked ourselves into walking over there and signing up. We walked into the army office because we wanted to be in the 101st because that's what his dad was in and I knew nothing about it other than Jimi Hendrix had been 101 so it was fine with me.
I took mines hungover... recruiter and my mother practically dragged me out the house.
We walked in and told the recruiter that we were ready to sign whatever and ship out and he asked us if we'd taken the asvab. When we told him we hadn't he told us we were in luck because MEPS (had no idea what that was at the time) was 10 minutes away and he'd be happy to take us over.
So took it drunk and really no idea what it was and was at basic training at Benning 3 weeks later.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:29 pm to BurningHeart
Have him go down to the IBEW and get in the apprentice program. He’ll get paid to learn a trade that he can make money with the rest of his life.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:29 pm to Tiger JED
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“The world needs ditch diggers too.”
Yep. Every kid should have a nightmare job early in their life. A kid may think school sucks but the prospect of doing back-breaking, unrewarding manual labor for the rest of one's life gives a whole different perspective to how much effort you want to put into school.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:30 pm to BurningHeart
My buddy from HS could never pass the asvab but still ended up having 4 kids of which 3 are his. Your son will be ok as long as you leave him with a house
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:32 pm to BurningHeart
Does any MOS minus ATC transfer to the civilian world? Honest question. I was Marines so we were all idiots.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:40 pm to BurningHeart
I'm pretty sure the recruiter will tell you what you want to hear but it's probably 50/50 or lower you get your choice.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:44 pm to jfturner212
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Does any MOS minus ATC transfer to the civilian world? Honest question. I was Marines so we were all idiots.
shite ton, Army does everything.
Plumber, carpenter, journalist, graphic artist….
Posted on 2/13/24 at 3:48 pm to BurningHeart
Go to a trade school instead. Then take business courses and work towards starting your own plumbing or electrician or auto mechanic firm. I'd recommended doing it in a red state with good demographics like Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana.
Signing onto the 2024 US armed forces is a bad move. They are all captured at this point.
Signing onto the 2024 US armed forces is a bad move. They are all captured at this point.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:31 pm to BurningHeart
You should not have to study for the ASVAB if you graduate high school.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:32 pm to BurningHeart
If local trade school is a option I greatly recommend this over military unless needs the discipline and maturing the military will give him.
Look into a electrical or trades MOS.
Such as:
GSE - Gas Turbine System Technicians Electrical (navy)
12R Interior Electrician (army)
91D Tactical Power Generation Specialist (army)
Marine Corps Electrician (MOS 1141)
many many more.
With this field when he gets out can find jobs and continue to develop and earn more.
Look into a electrical or trades MOS.
Such as:
GSE - Gas Turbine System Technicians Electrical (navy)
12R Interior Electrician (army)
91D Tactical Power Generation Specialist (army)
Marine Corps Electrician (MOS 1141)
many many more.
With this field when he gets out can find jobs and continue to develop and earn more.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:37 pm to BurningHeart
If the kid actually wants to go to the military, I would just be a proud dad. So many advantages once you get out of the service. Or you can stay in and take the early arse retirement they offer.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:41 pm to jmarto1
quote:I don’t know how it is nowadays, but scratching your name on the asvab with a crayon was considered smug back in the day.
People study for the asvab?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:46 pm to BurningHeart
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What have you all done in similar situations?
Take him on an Ayahuasca vision trip.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:49 pm to Matt225
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Marine Corps Electrician (MOS 1141)
Officer buddy of mine had this MOS when he was enlisted before going back to OCS. Good MOS to get into if that is what you want to do post military plus you got the network to lean on.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:50 pm to BurningHeart
Have him get a job at least 30 hours per week, pay his own expenses or possibly a little rent, help out around the house and give him some time.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:57 pm to lowhound
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I'd push him to national guard instead of full time military right now. Still get the basic training and MOS training, but gets their school paid when they get back home.
This is what my son did and he is about to graduate college. Besides being stuck on base during Covid, it has worked out well. He will be limited in MOS/Rating options though compared to active military, I believe.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:01 pm to jmarto1
quote:Flat-footed I scored the highest ASVAB score in my state my Junior year of High School.
People study for the asvab?
In the late 70s no one was studying for it.
I could have gone anywhere in the country that had ROTC.
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