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re: Gas(shortage)lighting - This Is What We're Up Against
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:36 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:36 am to Pettifogger
muh pipeline
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:38 am to The Spleen
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Agree. I also think the Trump administration was far more hostile towards the media than the Biden administration will be, so it cuts both ways. And many times that hostility towards the Trump administration was pushing back on their blatant lies.
Many times? There was hardly a news story put out by the MSM over the course of 4 years that wasn't completely based in either fabricated stories or completely unconfirmed rumors treated as fact.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:43 am to upgrayedd
quote:A perfect example is the MSM stating that Trump contacted Georgia and demanded that they find enough votes to swing the election his way.
Many times? There was hardly a news story put out by the MSM over the course of 4 years that wasn't completely based in either fabricated stories or completely unconfirmed rumors treated as fact.
Then, a correction is out months later saying that they were wrong.
Situations like that happened countless times.
An adversarial relationship is good.
Progressives enjoy the current “suck off and cover” media relationship with the Biden administration, which is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than any adversarial relationship.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:46 am to Scruffy
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A perfect example is the MSM stating that Trump contacted Georgia and demanded that they find enough votes to swing the election his way.
Then, a correction is out months later saying that they were wrong.
They initiated an impeachment trial of a US president with a blatant lie that they never even bothered to confirm with even a secondary source. To say that this is a "give and take" as spleen put it is so far beyond reasonable that it makes sense to retards such as himself.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:51 am to Scruffy
Or Trump's alleged comments on losers/suckers. The claim was systematically dismantled such that a whole ton of people were either lying on the record, or the anonymous sources relied upon by 4 outlets (all anti-Trump) were wrong.
There were scores of hit pieces like that where evidence later arose casting major doubt on the stories, but then they just disappear into the ether and nobody ever has to account for them and the damage is done
Meanwhile, has our media ever taken issue with being completely lied to on Althea Bernstein or similar? Or take Biden to task on his admin's comments on Ma'Khia Bryant?
There were scores of hit pieces like that where evidence later arose casting major doubt on the stories, but then they just disappear into the ether and nobody ever has to account for them and the damage is done
Meanwhile, has our media ever taken issue with being completely lied to on Althea Bernstein or similar? Or take Biden to task on his admin's comments on Ma'Khia Bryant?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:51 am to Pettifogger
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but because they can't risk agreeing with you in our increasingly social-credit system.
In sum, I think this type of stuff is less about convincing you a lie is true, and more about putting an implied threat out there about calling out the lie. But to your point - if everyone goes along with the lie, is it really a lie? - is just as valid.
Yep.
The far left and the MSM is becoming more and more bold because they have manipulated current values to make any traditional values uncouth for polite society. They can say whatever they want and you cant disagree
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:52 am to Scruffy
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A perfect example is the MSM stating that Trump contacted Georgia and demanded that they find enough votes to swing the election his way.
Then, a correction is out months later saying that they were wrong.
That's because our media was still so shaken by the totally accurate report that Russians were putting bounties on our troops.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:07 pm to upgrayedd
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They initiated an impeachment trial of a US president with a blatant lie that they never even bothered to confirm with even a secondary source.
Which impeachment, and what lie?
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To say that this is a "give and take" as spleen put it
I never used "give and take."
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:08 pm to Scruffy
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There was hardly a news story put out by the MSM over the course of 4 years that wasn't completely based in either fabricated stories or completely unconfirmed rumors treated as fact.
And that's why more Americans trust congress than the mainstream media. And Americans don't really trust congress.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:09 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Consider how no one is chastising the Biden administration for essentially hiding the man from speaking to the press and taking questions.
Meanwhile, has our media ever taken issue with being completely lied to on Althea Bernstein or similar? Or take Biden to task on his admin's comments on Ma'Khia Bryant?
For the US citizenry, a media industry treating a presidency with kid gloves is astronomically worse than an antagonistic one.
How people don’t understand that is amazing.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:11 pm to The Spleen
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Which impeachment, and what lie?
The lie was that Trump saying "all I need is a few thousand votes" was a crime. It was a statement of fact, nothing more.
If you want to bitch about Trump, there's all the ammunition in the world out there for you to use. You don't have to pretend that his post-election pouting was some sort of big deal. It wasn't, and anyone with a brain and functioning gonads knows it.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:11 pm to The Spleen
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Which impeachment, and what lie?
2nd. Pressuring GA SoS to "find more votes".
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I never used "give and take."
That's the premise of your argument.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:12 pm to Pettifogger
Keep eating those beans...there will be no gas shortage in Louisiana! 
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:14 pm to Scruffy
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For the US citizenry, a media industry treating a presidency with kid gloves is astronomically worse than an antagonistic one.
How people don’t understand that is amazing.
Someone posted an article on here recently that had a breakdown of the percentage of stories by the MSM that were negative towards Trump and then did the same with Biden. it was absurd the difference, and also something like 65% of stories on Biden by the MSM had the word Trump in them
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:23 pm to upgrayedd
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2nd. Pressuring GA SoS to "find more votes".
I think you are confused. The 2nd impeachment only had one article and it was for inciting an insurrection. It was prompted by what happened at the US Capitol on 1/6. They may have used that call during the trial as evidence, but it wasn't what prompted the impeachment.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:31 pm to The Spleen
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The 2nd impeachment only had one article and it was for inciting an insurrection. It was prompted by what happened at the US Capitol on 1/6
Well that was bullshite as well
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:33 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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It's good to see them being corrected by a majority of the replies.
Sadly those poor fools will soon be guilty of violating “terms of service” and immediately banned forever.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 12:43 pm to The Spleen
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I think you are confused. The 2nd impeachment only had one article and it was for inciting an insurrection. It was prompted by what happened at the US Capitol on 1/6. They may have used that call during the trial as evidence, but it wasn't what prompted the impeachment.
It kicked off yet more calls for impeachment citing criminal activity to overturn an election. They formally filed one count for "insurrection" but this was the first thing to kick off the impeachment process.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:21 pm to Pettifogger
I can agree with that.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 1:36 pm to Pettifogger
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