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re: Gas(shortage)lighting - This Is What We're Up Against
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:57 am to jclem11
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:57 am to jclem11
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Gas here has jumped like 20 cents plus a gallon in less than a week.
Why the gaslighting, NYT?
The probably of these NYTs reporters and DC establishment politicians pumping gas in their life is almost zero. Most of these people don't own cars and never pay attention to gas prices like normal people who fill up once a week or two.
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:59 am to Pettifogger
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National gas price average just hit a 6 year peak
Looks like it is right about where it was in May 2017.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:00 am to madmaxvol
In candor, that mention was based on a Twitter post from a breaking news site (usually reputable I think) but I have no underlying source for the data or what they're looking at
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:01 am to Klark Kent
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the media creates news; they don’t report news
That's literally what an editorial/opinion piece is.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:04 am to Pettifogger
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Left twitter despises Maggie Haberman for occasionally criticizing people on the left
I think it has more to do with a few of her fluff pieces on Trump, which they viewed as her protecting her access to him and his staff, but that's neither here nor there. Every White House reporter has been guilty of that across several administrations.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:08 am to The Spleen
Can you link these hosts of liberal critiques of the NYT? Thanks
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:11 am to The Spleen
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I think it has more to do with a few of her fluff pieces on Trump, which they viewed as her protecting her access to him and his staff, but that's neither here nor there. Every White House reporter has been guilty of that across several administrations.
Just put it out there
The media establishment was far more hostile to the Trump administration than it is/will be toward Biden - agree or disagree?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:13 am to madmaxvol
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Looks like it is right about where it was in May 2017.
So when you fill up you compare prices from four years ago?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:15 am to GumboPot
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So when you fill up you compare prices from four years ago?
He was responding to the claim that gas was at a 6 year high when it clearly isn't.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:21 am to Pettifogger
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The media establishment was far more hostile to the Trump administration than it is/will be toward Biden - agree or disagree?
Agree. I also think the Trump administration was far more hostile towards the media than the Biden administration will be, so it cuts both ways. And many times that hostility towards the Trump administration was pushing back on their blatant lies.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:25 am to Pettifogger
It appears we are delving into a timeline problem. When topics are debated/discussed based on a timeline both sides can find initial conditions or starting points to bolster their argument. For example it happens ALL THE TIME in the climate change debate. A specific example, the climate alarmist are starting with the U.S. wildfire record in the mid 60s. The mid 60s was the low period of burn acreage in the U.S. So of course their chart looks bad and they blame it on climate change. But if they would have started in the late 19th century when the forest service started recording burn acreage they would have to show the burn acreage during the 1930s and 40s which is 10 times the current burn acreage. That starting point shows decreasing burn acreage and nullifies their climate alarmist message.
The NYTs appears to be selectively picking their starting date. But to the common person who buys gas weekly or bi-weekly their starting date is the last time they purchased gas.
The NYTs appears to be selectively picking their starting date. But to the common person who buys gas weekly or bi-weekly their starting date is the last time they purchased gas.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 11:26 am
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:25 am to upgrayedd
Early works nights i belive. Never seen him post past 9am. Thats his bedtime. He will start up again at 4:30 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:26 am to The Spleen
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Agree. I also think the Trump administration was far more hostile towards the media than the Biden administration will be, so it cuts both ways. And many times that hostility towards the Trump administration was pushing back on their blatant lies.
When we have ample evidence (not particularly subjective) that the media is overwhelmingly left-leaning, why wouldn't Trump be hostile to the press?
And we've already seen examples where legacy media is taking completely opposite approaches based on who is in the chair (China travel ban - xenophobic just like Trump! India travel ban - wise choice by the statesman!).
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:27 am to Chad504boy
Our country has become the worst in the world with media propaganda.
---commie China says hold my eggroll
---commie China says hold my eggroll
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:28 am to Pettifogger
People say he was hostile. At least he talked to the media face to face. Biden be hidin
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:30 am to Pettifogger
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When we have ample evidence (not particularly subjective) that the media is overwhelmingly left-leaning, why wouldn't Trump be hostile to the press?
Well, I think an adversarial relationship between the media and the White House is a good thing. I don't think shouting down reporters and calling them "fake news" and labeling the media as "the enemy of the people" as being adversarial in a constructive way, and I don't think we'll see that from the Biden administration.
And let's be honest, Trump's hostility towards the press wasn't because of any perception of them being overwhelmingly left-leaning. It was because they reported things that were not flattering to his fragile ego.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:31 am to Dr RC
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He was responding to the claim that gas was at a 6 year high when it clearly isn't.
Yeah you have to wait until tomorrow and then his statement will be true. Right now it is just about at 7 year highs.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:31 am to Nado Jenkins83
Trump was petty, let's be honest.
I support Trump's hostility towards the media, I probably don't always support the reasons for that hostility.
But American media is a corrupt institution that is venturing more and more into propaganda territory. All Americans should be hostile to media outlets that regularly lie to them and foment violence and destruction, as we saw last Summer, as we saw with economic losses from COVID dishonesty, etc.
I support Trump's hostility towards the media, I probably don't always support the reasons for that hostility.
But American media is a corrupt institution that is venturing more and more into propaganda territory. All Americans should be hostile to media outlets that regularly lie to them and foment violence and destruction, as we saw last Summer, as we saw with economic losses from COVID dishonesty, etc.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:35 am to The Spleen
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Well, I think an adversarial relationship between the media and the White House is a good thing. I don't think shouting down reporters and calling them "fake news" and labeling the media as "the enemy of the people" as being adversarial in a constructive way, and I don't think we'll see that from the Biden administration.
Well, they are the enemy of the people. That's a broad brush, but it's within the bounds of truth if we're talking about MSM/legacy outlets. They may not be your enemy, because you're aligned with what they're selling. But they're openly hostile to me, my family, my beliefs, etc. A huge swath of the country is in a cold ideological war with dominant media outlets in America. Not sure what you'd call it when they will openly describe your (previously neutral) beliefs as racist/violent/problematic or openly advocate for the loss of your rights or openly promote the government taking more from my family to redistribute to others.
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And let's be honest, Trump's hostility towards the press wasn't because of any perception of them being overwhelmingly left-leaning. It was because they reported things that were not flattering to his fragile ego.
Agree
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 11:36 am
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