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re: FYI for all you Travel ball parents
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:21 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:21 am to Tiger Ryno
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Coach as well... In rec ball.
Same here for softball. I’ve got girls on my team who would have no problem making a “select” or travel team. In fact, there seems to be more than you can shake a stick at.
Some just aren’t playing because the parents don’t have the time or money. Some, because their parents don’t want them involved in the BS too early.
Only bummer is rec league around here really only field up to 12U, and there’s no baseball/softball at the Jr Highs, so those kids, to keep improving, or kind of forced into “select” or travel once they turn 13 years old.
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:32 am to Robin Masters
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Take the time you would be traveling and go play your sport locally for fun. Why travel for 5 hours to play 1 hour when you could have stayed home and played 5 hours?
If you are in the Baton Rouge area, there is absolutely zero need to play "travel" ball.. you can easily skip the league and play "tournament" ball...Everyone knows the leagues are not what they used to be, so playing tournaments actually makes a lot of sense. There is a tournament near BR every weekend mid feb - mid june. Unless you are chasing fictitious meaningless points with one organization, just play tournaments and skip the travel.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:36 am to yaherrdme
I havent read this thread to see if it has been discussed, but pretty much every young major league player these days did in fact play travel ball/year round baseball
Harper, Bryant, Bregman, Nola, etc etc
I cant think of one that didnt actually. They always show their young pictures if you watch MLB baseball consistently
Harper, Bryant, Bregman, Nola, etc etc
I cant think of one that didnt actually. They always show their young pictures if you watch MLB baseball consistently
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:38 am to TechDawg2007
Threads like this are why I wade through all the bullshite here.
You guys are fricking hilarious and I've only read 2 pages
You guys are fricking hilarious and I've only read 2 pages
Posted on 1/31/19 at 11:39 am to lsupride87
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I havent read this thread to see if it has been discussed, but pretty much every young major league player these days did in fact play travel ball
Harper, Bryant, Bregman, Nola, etc etc
In Memphis, if you want to play HS ball, you better have played competitive (travel) ball -- not aware of any kids that only played REC make a team when you have 30 kids trying out for the Freshman team
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:10 pm to 91TIGER
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Race has nothing to do with it. The problem is the rec. leagues are horrendous when it comes to fundamentals. You may have 2 kids on a 12 member team that can catch a ball, much less have basic fundamental skills. Kids show up at 8-10 years of age and have NEVER played the game before. If your kid has been playing, or has fundamental skills, he will get ZERO out of a typical rec. league. The only way to play the game the right way, and learn/enhance fundamental skills, is play with kids of same talent or better and have fundamental coaching/teaching of the game. Kids don't play outside any longer and all of these rec. league kids are so far behind it is a lost cause.
Self fulfilling prophecy. Tell people their kid won’t learn fundamentals in rec league and those with means pull out. If everyone did what used to be done and play rec league ball then guess what-those “fundamentally sound” travel league kids would be able to teach the other kids their fundamentals. Also on a macro level how is passion for the sport going to grow if you essentially limit it to kids who’s parents push them into tee ball right away? No kid wants to play on the outcast team/league. Also rec league builds a community and expands a group of contact with the team changing every two years instead of the same 15 or so kids all year every year.
I love baseball and I’m not entirely against travel ball for my kid but there was some huge pluses that are lost with the death of rec ball.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:22 pm to Adam Banks
quote:90 percent of people talking about fundamentals have no idea what they are...yes, proper throwing and fielding are fundamentals taught early. The vast majority of fundamental teaching does not occur until a kid is 12 or 13.
Tell people their kid won’t learn fundamentals in rec league and those with means pull out. If everyone did what used to be done and play rec league ball then guess what-those “fundamentally sound” travel league kids would be able to teach the other kids their fundamentals
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:26 pm to 91TIGER
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If your kid has been playing, or has fundamental skills, he will get ZERO out of a typical rec. league.
I thought one of the main appeals of rec play is bringing the community together and getting to play ball with your classmates/buddies ? Isn't that getting something out of it? My son has played select but probably enjoys rec league ball more b/c it's less serious and more fun.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:30 pm to PortHudsonPlaya
a kid from the Dominican Republic just traveled and put all of the Bradens , Cadons and Paytons to shame. He's got scholarship and pro offers already....says he's 12, but he has a full beard
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:36 pm to TechDawg2007
What about 9U, 10U, 11U....etc.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:37 pm to tigerfoot
I was with you in regards to needing travel ball for small communities to actually be able to compete and field teams. Then you throw in about adding some stud pitchers and dominating and it made it look like you cared far more about winning in order to puff your chest out as opposed to just letting the kids play and have fun.
If that’s not you, my bad, but I’ve seen and heard of too many damn stories of people spending fricking crazy amounts of money for private coaches, multiple leagues, and spending all of their damn time on something that turns into a job when it shouldn’t be
If that’s not you, my bad, but I’ve seen and heard of too many damn stories of people spending fricking crazy amounts of money for private coaches, multiple leagues, and spending all of their damn time on something that turns into a job when it shouldn’t be
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:38 pm to TechDawg2007
I’m taking travel ball to a new, yet old school level.
I call it “Youth Barnstorming Baseball.” I drive my team from town to town on an old bus, challenging any team that wants to play us. Doesn’t matter if it’s rec league or some travel ball tournament. We “pass the hat” at games to pay expenses.
Some of our players include Brahden, Dyllan, Kohltin, Brodee, Skyluhr, Dahlis, and Bill.
I call it “Youth Barnstorming Baseball.” I drive my team from town to town on an old bus, challenging any team that wants to play us. Doesn’t matter if it’s rec league or some travel ball tournament. We “pass the hat” at games to pay expenses.
Some of our players include Brahden, Dyllan, Kohltin, Brodee, Skyluhr, Dahlis, and Bill.
This post was edited on 1/31/19 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:44 pm to TechDawg2007
I’m probably on an island here, but holy shite, this thread is so fricking played out on the OT.
Don’t like travel ball? Fine, don’t sign your kids up for it.. don’t like how other parents have their kids in travel ball and/or talk about ‘travel ball’, that’s fine too, but stop acting like it’s some horrible activity that sets kids up for failure later on in life...
reading through this thread, I swear it seems like half of y’all were cut from some sort of competitive team and are still holding grudges 10+ years later..
Why does travel ball bother y’all so much? Why is everyone so obsessed with it and the kids/parents who participate in it? Sort of strange IMO
Don’t like travel ball? Fine, don’t sign your kids up for it.. don’t like how other parents have their kids in travel ball and/or talk about ‘travel ball’, that’s fine too, but stop acting like it’s some horrible activity that sets kids up for failure later on in life...
reading through this thread, I swear it seems like half of y’all were cut from some sort of competitive team and are still holding grudges 10+ years later..
Why does travel ball bother y’all so much? Why is everyone so obsessed with it and the kids/parents who participate in it? Sort of strange IMO
Posted on 1/31/19 at 12:47 pm to Zilla
I disagree. I have a kid in rec ball and a kid that plays tournament ball. There are kids all thru the rec league that are good players.
I can promise you this. Dont think because your kid is dominant at one age that it will carry over for eternity. There are kids all over the country that will develop late and be great players. I hope that all rec leagues stay viable and strong so that these players can have easy access to the game.
There are a lot of good youth coaches in rec leagues teaching the game to kids.
I can promise you this. Dont think because your kid is dominant at one age that it will carry over for eternity. There are kids all over the country that will develop late and be great players. I hope that all rec leagues stay viable and strong so that these players can have easy access to the game.
There are a lot of good youth coaches in rec leagues teaching the game to kids.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:29 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:Ill challenge you on this, have you actually seen it or are you repeating what you hear second hand.
but I’ve seen and heard of too many damn stories of people spending fricking crazy amounts of money for private coaches
I dont know a single coach in our area that is charging to coach. Yes some people pay a few hundred dollars a year for lessons, but that is the exception. I will yield that it takes too much time, especially in May, June when the bigger tourneys get kicked off.
There are some inherent problems with competitive tourney baseball, but very few people touch on them.
It is amusing to me that there are very few concert pianists in the world, but no one ridicules people for taking piano lessons. I am sure there are wealthy people spending thousands a year on lessons. There are some very wealthy people spending ridiculous sums of money on baseball too, but it is the very rare exception.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:33 pm to tigerfoot
I got my son private lessons for Christmas. BJJ lessons.
Even though he plays baseball, basketball, football. I told him those are all games, but he’s going to learn BJJ. I don’t care if he ever wins a ring, but he’ll know how to defend himself
Even though he plays baseball, basketball, football. I told him those are all games, but he’s going to learn BJJ. I don’t care if he ever wins a ring, but he’ll know how to defend himself
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:38 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Why does travel ball bother y’all so much
My son plays it (only 6 tournaments per season) and I coach it. I can’t speak for anyone else but I hate it bc the rec experience is so terrible if you have a halfway good team by doing things the right way you have to play tournaments to get away from the drama of Rec ball.
Rec ball coach has no clue how to develop kids over time, just wants to throw jaxon 150 pitches to win the league and coach all stars.
News flash bud, all stars is dead. Get a group of good kids and families and work hard to do things the right way. Don’t play too much but when you’re there work hard at developing kids.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:57 pm to Jizzamo311
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I think there is a misconception regarding travel ball. Just like anything else, there are different levels!!
Me and a few other guys have started our own travel team this year for our 7/8 year olds.
We played Dixie, and became really close with the group of families during All Stars.
We decided we wanted to keep the boys together, and just have more control of practice and coaching. Unlike Dixie which is an absolute crap shoot!!!
We are only going to play local tournaments once or twice a month TOPS!!
Right now my kid is playing basketball, and then will also play soccer during the spring while we are playing “Travel” Ball.
If you're charging $400 per kid then it's fine. If you're charging $2000 per kid, you're a predatory piece of shite.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:14 pm to yaherrdme
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Unless you are chasing fictitious meaningless points with one organization
But U-Trip requires 75 points (or whatever) in order to "qualify" for one of the four weeks of World Series at one of the 28 locations they are held!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:18 pm to PT24-7
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My son plays it (only 6 tournaments per season) and I coach it. I can’t speak for anyone else but I hate it bc the rec experience is so terrible if you have a halfway good team by doing things the right way you have to play tournaments to get away from the drama of Rec ball.
Rec ball coach has no clue how to develop kids over time, just wants to throw jaxon 150 pitches to win the league and coach all stars.
I hear this a lot.
Why do you think rec sucks? Because all the parents who would make good coaches, all the parents who make sure their kids go to practice, and all the kids who have any talent whatsoever, long abandoned the rec concept.
So what's left in rec is poor, single parent families who have trouble getting their kids to practice and games.
Travel Ball = White Flight. Prove me wrong.
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