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re: Fun Fact: The CIA created the unabomber through a Harvard mind study from MK Ultra

Posted on 8/31/23 at 6:45 am to
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 6:45 am to
I just watched something on Max last week about some Dr. who did experiments on US soldiers at some secret base. The program was an offshoot of MK Ultra and they developed several drugs (I'm blanking on all these names of places and people and drugs rn) and one was way more powerful than LSD and lasted way longer and were getting these soldiers to inhale it in aerosol form. In doing that, they couldn't control the amount ts these subjects were ingesting and just royally fricking their minds up.

It's incredible because the doctor was alive until recently and said he had zero regrets about that project and was very proud of his work.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 6:47 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 6:46 am to
And likely created Charles Manson
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:41 am to
The CIA ran hippie LSD flop houses in San Francisco. The whole 'Height/Ashbury' culture was created by them and the MKULTRA program.

One man who was known to have frequented the flop houses was Charles Manson.

Ted K. also lived in the area in the 60's.
Posted by blueboxer1119
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:46 am to
Wait till you find out about Charles Manson and the CIA.

Try reading "Chaos" by Tom Oneill
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:50 am to
huh? mk ultra is a periphery song, with the 2:02ish minute mark starting the best elevator/hold music.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 7:54 am
Posted by HuskyPanda
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:00 am to
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"plunged"



That's why the family received a personal apology from Gerald Ford and a $750k settlement from the Government.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19798 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:07 am to
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Ted’s concerns about tech are 100% accurate


What are they
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:27 am to
MK Ultra

tranny beer…
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:35 am to
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If MK ultra exist, you think they stopped at the Unibomber?


I believe it continues to this day. Strange how certain things like shootings appear to be “dialed up” as a distraction.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:41 am to
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I heard this for first time today.


You just heard about this?

Take a dive into the CIA's work in promoting modern art in the 20th century.

Hint, artists like Jackson Pollock, De Kooning and Rothko didn't just become famous because people all of a sudden started liking their work.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:43 am to
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I believe it continues to this day. Strange how certain things like shootings appear to be “dialed up” as a distraction.


Las Vegas shooting comes to mind.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:47 am to
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MK Ultra

Ha....only the gays drink that stuff.
Posted by diat150
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:49 am to
Think about how easy it is for them to do shite like that now thru social media and the internet. Targeting people they think could fall for their bs.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:54 am to
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Think about how easy it is for them to do shite like that now thru social media and the internet. Targeting people they think could fall for their bs.


you can make someone download LSD from facebook?
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:56 am to
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Las Vegas shooting comes to mind.


would be the worst example for a mass shooting causing a "distraction"
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:58 am to
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would be the worst example for a mass shooting causing a "distraction"


Not as a distraction but as a shooting with no motive.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:58 am to
This one was always just really odd to me.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:59 am to
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SD and the Elephant: A True Story
Some animals, including elephants, exhibit a unique behavior during their mating season called “musth” (pronounced “must.”) Animal biologists characterize musth as a seemingly random episode of wild and erratic, rageful, and destructive behavior. Back in the 60s, a group of scientists wanted to investigate musth to determine how to stop it in captive Indian elephants. They argued that this behavior makes it hard to care for and conserve the species. This behavior, however, is unique to a certain set of animals, and there doesn’t seem to be a corresponding behavior in humans. So, humans were not the best model for studying it.

To be able to study musth closely, they brought an elephant to their facility. They wanted to recreate the behavior in a controlled setting, on their own terms.

As their research subject, they decided to use Tusko, a 14-year-old Indian elephant who lived at the Lincoln Park Zoo in Oklahoma City. In an attempt to induce a musth-like state in the elephant, the researchers chose to inject it with LSD. They hypothesized that LSD, because of its “well-known personality-disrupting” effects (as the paper described them), would be a great tool for inducing this wild, inexplicable behavior in Tusko.

hen performing experiments with drugs in a new species, scientists find it very difficult to determine what dose to use. Different animals are of different sizes, weights, and densities; have different sized organs; and metabolize drugs at different rates. Therefore, scientists struggle to compare doses between species. Since elephants were not (and still are not) used for drug research, the researchers had no example to work off of. Consequently, they were left with only their best-educated guess.

These researchers knew they were entering risky territory because they understood that LSD is one of the most potent drugs known to exist.

In humans, 20-30 micrograms of LSD is enough to induce hallucinations. That’s only .02 – .03 milligrams or about .004 milligrams per kilogram of body weight).

Compare that to the 1000 milligrams, or 6 milligrams per kilogram, of aspirin you take to treat a headache.

About .1 – .2 milligrams or about .02 mg/kg) is enough to produce major mental disturbances that resemble psychosis and delirium in people. The authors argued animals require an even higher dose to induce similar disturbances in an elephant, so they chose to inject Tusko with 297 mg of LSD, or .1 mg/kg.

To summarize, this dose per kilogram is 25 times the dose needed to induce hallucinations in humans and five to ten times the dose needed to induce psychosis. In their paper, the researchers even acknowledged that this concentration of LSD in the human body would definitely cause an overdose. But based on previous research with other animals, they hypothesized that the elephant would be less sensitive to the drug.

As you may have guessed, shortly after they injected the elephant, it keeled over and started seizing. As any scientist in their right mind would predict, Tusko had overdosed on LSD.

In an attempt to counteract the overdose, the researchers quickly injected the animal with promazine, an antipsychotic drug. This stopped the seizures. But Tusko wasn’t recovering, so they injected him with pentobarbital, a common, short-acting barbiturate that’s used today to execute prisoners.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:00 am to
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quote:

I believe it continues to this day. Strange how certain things like shootings appear to be “dialed up” as a distraction.



Las Vegas shooting comes to mind


the shooting everyone loves to point to as a government conspiracy/coverup is your idea of a distraction from government conspiracies/coverups?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
45978 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 9:01 am to
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you can make someone download LSD from facebook?


You dont need to put them on lsd if you can control or alter the information they consume.
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