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re: Fresh out of college, no real-world experience, no specialized degree. Salary expectation?

Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:49 pm to
And none of those are necessities

ETA: need insurance
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 9:51 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60688 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:52 pm to
i have down votes like 50k is some exorbitant number
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89814 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Imo you get what you pay for.


Lol, you are talking about 10s of thousands difference on someone with no experience.

Not saying they can't be good, but come on.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:52 pm to
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And none of those are necessities


Good luck working for more than minimum wage without a smart phone and wifi. That is such a tired and bullshite argument.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92266 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:53 pm to
Maybe to you
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8645 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:54 pm to
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And none of those are necessities

ETA: need insurance


Eh, I'd say WiFi and a cheap cell phone are pretty close to necessities.

And health insurance and education are far, far more expensive inflation-adjusted than they were 30 years ago.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:54 pm to
30k.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92266 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:55 pm to
It isn’t, it’s chicken feed, but you need to be able to bring something to the table to have negotiating leverage
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:58 pm to
About 350 dollars a week
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:58 pm to
Yeah plant baws got mad at me too when I posted the truth about what my company pays.

It’s $50k not $250k.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 9:59 pm
Posted by Lynyrd
Under the Tilt-a-Whirl
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:58 pm to
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quote:
The response I received is that I would not settle for less than $70K base salary.


For entry level inside sales?

I get that each industry is different but those are unreal expectations with years of experience

Will......part time experience. Wants 70... El Oh fricking El
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92266 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:58 pm to
Cell phone, I’ll agree, but it doesn’t have to be the latest and greatest, WiFi? meh, go to Starbucks, everything that’s cool and convenient isn’t a necessity, got to learn to adapt, make things fit
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:00 pm
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:59 pm to
Lol you work at enterprise
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60688 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 9:59 pm to
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but you need to be able to bring something to the table to have negotiating leverage
that is subjective
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:01 pm to
Sometimes I think I should be making a lot more and then I remember these threads
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46517 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:02 pm to
Well cell phone or WiFi are absolutely necessary. You don’t “have” have either but if you are in sales you have to have at least one.

shite include a home security system in there too. Pest control as well.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 10:03 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41094 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:02 pm to
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WiFi, meh, go to Starbucks


You email an employee something time sensitive at night, on a weekend, holiday, etc and you're relying on them to pop in to a Starbucks to see it and respond?

Way to set yourself up for failure.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26817 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:02 pm to
Our company is paying $75k while being trained (over 6k/mo).
After training is complete (3 to 4 months), pay is $35k plus commission/bonus.
Employer paid pension (cash account), matching 401k, health insurance paid 75%.

We probably interview 150 people for 1 hire. We have corporate recruiters screen out the resume's and perform a personality test to identify those who get the interview. Who knows how many they see.

We have hired fresh out of college in the past. But those kids are getting eat up by the rest of the market right now.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8645 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:03 pm to
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Cell phone, I’ll agree, but it doesn’t have to be the latest and greatest, WiFi, meh, go to Starbucks, everything that’s cool and convenient isn’t a necessity, got to learn to adapt, make things fit


And what if you don't have a Starbucks nearby? Or have a car to get to one? Or don't want to spend $4 per day to get access (which would end up being more than internet anyway)?

Not to mention the economic time cost of going to and from Starbucks every time you need to send an e-mail.

Besides all that, non-tradeable goods (healthcare, education, housing/rent) are far, far more expensive in real terms now than they were 30 years ago, and those three take an absolutely massive chunk of the average college grad's compensation every single month. That is where the majority of these kids' checks are going to, anyway. Even in real terms, 35K today doesn't get you what it did 30 years ago.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/19/18 at 10:03 pm to
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We probably interview 150 people for 1 hire


Sounds incredibly inefficient and time consuming.
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