re: Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore has collapsed - container ship wrecked into it

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Are you attempting to be humorous or are you just stupid?

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O,O,O, I know the answer to that one........



Dumbass conspiracy theorists come out of the woodwork for every tragic event.

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It’s unprecedented for a major port, I don’t think that’s an overblown statement at all. There’s the equipment that’s currently stuck in harbor (who’s losing money here depends on type of charter for all equipment) plus the additional cost of goods waiting to come in, or being rerouted and requiring another mode of transportation to reach their destination. There’s the intangible lost time and/or productivity for the local work force due to extended commutes. There’s a long term cost of the harbor being shut down to rebuild the bridge however long it takes, though they’ll probably have to open and close the channel to keep commerce going. The litigation coming from this will set legal precedent going forward, which is what I’m interested in. Because anybody that’s losing money right now will be filing a lawsuit.

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We currently ship about 10-15 containers a week out of Baltimore to Brazil and Antwerp. Our Antwerp ships go out once a week, and they hit Norfolk and NY after Baltimore before going across the ocean. Our brokers are furiously trying to get us space out of Norfolk and NY right now.

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While we are at it, lets put some bumpers on trains to protect vehicles crossing the tracks.

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Not the same league, ballpark, or sport.

Fenders (bumpers) can help redirect smaller vessels and ablate the impact force.

Dolphins (pylons) are massive structural elements meant for area denial. They get placed in such a way to prevent a vessel like the Dali from getting anywhere near the bridge substructure (pier or bent).

Ah I didn’t realize you were familiar with every charter party in effect for every vessel in the Port of Baltimore. Carry on then baw…

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The litigation coming from this will set legal precedent going forward, which is what I’m interested in. Because anybody that’s losing money right now will be filing a lawsuit.

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I don’t think many people inconvenienced by this will have a legal leg to stand on.

I think someone tried a suit for losses when a boat struck the Sunshine Bridge. Accidents like this will fall under maritime law and not civil law. That will restrict anyone wanting to sue to have actual damages and catastrophic losses for example the injured workers, families of the deceased, and the state for the loss of the bridge.

Lawsuit Faces Uphill Battle over Sunshine Bridge-Advocate (Paywall)

Failure was a given once the interior support of the 3-span continuous truss was obliterated. The span arrangement was 700-1200-700 feet. No way it could self-support 1900 ft. Everything else is just details. As you said before, it's all connected, so once the 1900 feet is going down, it's taking the rest with it.

The Dali had a dead weight tonnage of 116,000 and some change. No bridge on earth is designed for impact of that weight, so the design failure lies in not providing a dolphin system to protect piers straddling the navigable waterways.

Being anywhere on that bridge would be awful, but if you were traveling into the city, that right hand side going straight up and you going backwards in to the water.

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Chesapeake Bay Bridge

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Terrifying bridge.

On a side note, it's highly uncomfortable to have two of my nightmare bridge scenarios occurring within weeks of each other. This was on the Second Street Bridge here in Louisville at the beginning of the month:

Maritime job placement company BalticShipping shows the captain of the container ship is a Ukranian.

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Chesapeake Bay Bridge


Terrifying bridge.

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It ain't the bridge that terrifies me it is when you run out of bridge and plunge into the water about 7 miles from shore.