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re: Francine - Landfall in Terrebonne Parish as CAT 2 100 mph

Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:09 am to
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27770 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:09 am to
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Pressure down to 974



So is she going to intensify then break up before making landfall? Because I think they projected her to make landfall at that pressure.

I sure hope that doesn't mean shes intensifying more/earlier than they thought.

Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14297 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:09 am to
HMON drops intensity from 100 kts and 969.5 mb to 55 kts and 977 mb in only 3 hours. Seems a little quick to weaken it, but that would be good for inland areas if it did do that.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:10 am to
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Do we still think it gets torn apart before landfall even with the strengthening tonight?


Despite a bunch of shitposting that may have insinuated otherwise, it was never forecast to get torn apart before landfall. NHC has been calling for strengthening to stop as it gets close, but nothing akin to being torn apart. It will likely lose its structure and strength pretty rapidly after landfall.
Posted by WAY2GOLSU
Stick Red
Member since Dec 2007
1563 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:10 am to
Yea it has definitely started to ramp up in the last hour. Hopefully it doesn't cook for too long.
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 12:11 am
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3714 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:11 am to
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They were answered.


You fricked up now, he’s about to come at you even harder
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79982 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:14 am to
I see you did. Thanks. There are numerous variations of runs that go into the euro and GFS,, right? All of those with the acronyms we see bunched together? I'm not up on which are most respected.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14297 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:20 am to
Looks like it is in a sweet spot for now where outflow is being helped by trough to its NW. But from what has been said, that should be changing in about 12 hours??

ETA - Recon reported 978 mb and 26.45N 94.21 W with eye open to South

This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 12:26 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:21 am to
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Those are at least partially my fault.


Did you at least get Slag back?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:23 am to
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There are numerous variations of runs that go into the euro and GFS,, right? All of those with the acronyms we see bunched together? I'm not up on which are most respected.


No. The Euro and GFS are their own standalone product. They also have ensembles that are members that run at a lower resolution and mix up the initial analysis slightly to try and give a sample of other possible outcomes. The ensembles are useful for overall forecasting but not as influential as the operational (primary) higher resolution model that is run. All of the other models are designed to model different things at different resolutions, but the GFS and Euro are the big boys for overall steering typically, which is the topic of your question.
Posted by King of New Orleans
In front of The Hungry Tiger
Member since Jul 2011
11021 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:24 am to
When it comes to pressure, are we needing it to come down or go up? That always confuses me.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84309 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:25 am to
the higher the pressure, the better
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
117492 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:29 am to
Yes
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:29 am to
quote:

Do we still think it gets torn apart before landfall even with the strengthening tonight?

The current strengthening isn't unexpected. It is a bit later than initially thought, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Being that it took a while to start ramping up likely means that it will not be able to build larger, more robust core. The shear will still be there at/nearing landfall, and that small core would be more susceptible to that shear. The idea is that once it is opened up by that shear it will suck in dry air and deteriorate quickly.

The only caveat to that is the off chance that it overachieves during this strengthening phase and is able to build a more stable core. That isn't really expected, but can't be completely counted out.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:30 am to
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Yes

I guess you take the good with the bad.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79982 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:33 am to
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They also have ensembles that are members that run at a lower resolution and mix up the initial analysis slightly to try and give a sample of other possible outcomes
I'm not clear on that part but thanks for answering my questions. I do appreciate it.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:39 am to
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An ensemble weather forecast is a set of forecasts that present the range of future weather possibilities. Multiple simulations are run, each with a slight variation of its initial conditions and with slightly perturbed weather models. These variations represent the inevitable uncertainty in the initial conditions and approximations in the models. They produce a range of possible weather conditions.


LINK
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:41 am to
Some wicked little thunderstorms popping up in the outer bands near the upper Texas coast.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:45 am to
Pressure down to 978mb.

00z Euro with the slightest of shifts west back to Atchafalaya River landfall from Point Au Fer
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:46 am to
1:00 AM CDT Wed Sep 11
Location: 26.6°N 94.1°W
Moving: NE at 10 mph
Min pressure: 977 mb
Max sustained: 90 mph
...FRANCINE A LITTLE STRONGER... ...LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE AND HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN LOUISIANA LATER TODAY...
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11404 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 12:47 am to
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slackster

I’ve asked this and haven’t gotten a clear answer. I’m looking on windy.com and noticing that while the storm passes, it’s telling me that the winds will be in the 30/35 mph range. I’m not understanding with the eye passing this close to me, why are those winds that low? Category 1 should be 75mph minimum and I’m not seeing that. Why is that?
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