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re: Four-month old dies from Meningitis, probably gotten from unvaccinated child.

Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:07 am to
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5046 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:07 am to
Probably trumpkins who didn’t vaccinate their kid. Trumpkins are pretty stupid
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75141 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:07 am to
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I’m fine with other people being government lemmings, but my kids aren’t getting a single vaccine. They haven’t been sick enough to miss a single day of school. No way I’m putting them at risk.


Troll game is weak.

Leave that style trolling to el Gaucho.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172499 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:07 am to
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That isn’t an issue.

Scruffy needs to take care of his kids instead of dumping them off on other people so young.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6423 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:08 am to
What you want here much discussion on regarding vaccines and disease is how the illegal immigrant population is also impacting this situation. No matter what your opinion is of the immigration issue, having millions of people arrive without the same vaccine history is not insignificant.
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:08 am to
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I’m fine with other people being government lemmings, but my kids aren’t getting a single vaccine. They haven’t been sick enough to miss a single day of school. No way I’m putting them at risk.


quote:

DiamondWhistler


One post, this name and this post. Definitely not a troll.
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:09 am to
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This isn’t entirely correct. The concept is herd immunity. Nothing is perfect and even in situations where immunizations are given, the immune system may not work as robustly and the response to the vaccine may not be sufficient. The idea of herd immunity is that, if everyone is vaccinated, those who either cannot be vaccinated or have an insufficient response to the vaccine will have their infection risk reduced significantly since the infection is unable to move freely around the population.


Thanks. That was my understanding of it. I'm not an expert so thanks for clearing it up.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71835 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:10 am to
so less sick people leads to less sick people?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75141 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:10 am to
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Probably trumpkins who didn’t vaccinate their kid. Trumpkins are pretty stupid
Although some of Trump’s supporters do fall into this camp, in Scruffy’s experience, it has been the “granolas,” the heavily liberal, “only organic everything” crowd that has given him the biggest problems.

That is also noted in many studies involving Canada and many Los Angeles wealthy school districts.

The ones that politically fall right tend to be the heavily religious groups, and they tend to shun doctors entirely.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 11:12 am
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84299 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:11 am to
The child was in daycare. Geez.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75141 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:11 am to
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Scruffy needs to take care of his kids instead of dumping them off on other people so young.
Scruffy ain’t got no chilrens yet.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:11 am to
Well this thread is full on OT ignorant mode.

Vaccines are important, but babies contracting meningitis is so rare that the CDC does not recommend the vaccine unless they are immune compromised.

This baby probably had one of those issues. Most kids do not get the meningococcal vaccine until they are older.

This is probably just an unfortunate event that doesn't have to have a scapegoat. And there's nothing wrong with putting an unvaccinated (meningococcal) 4 month old in daycare. Again, this is extremely rare.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:12 am to
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They are an embarrassment to Scruffy as not only an American, but also a human being.

How does Scruffy shot shame parents in his practice and does he immediately throw them out the door to protect the other patients.

Or does Scruffy not deal with children and their filth?
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
58888 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:12 am to
Reminds me of this article I saw.

I really dislike anti-vaxxers.

quote:

carolinehirons*swipe across- When our son was rushed to the emergency room last summer in a convoy of two ambulances and four paramedics (they sent for the main team because Dan was so dehydrated that the initial paramedic couldn’t find a vein), he had a raging fever and was hallucinating. He couldn’t see us when we were leaning over him. He felt his body shutting down. The team worked on him for over 15 minutes in the ambulance before they were cleared to ‘move off’. When we arrived at the hospital they immediately quarantined us and put him in critical care. Four IV drips. For 48 hours. He spent a week quarantined in the critical care unit - in the dark, because the crushing migraine he had for three weeks would not leave, even with morphine. His fever took a week to come down within normal range, even with the best of modern medicine available. At the time he was a 23 year old man, fitter than most, who played football for approx 4 hours a day. Mumps felled him. He lost over two stone in weight. Without intensive medical intervention he would not be here. Now imagine he was a baby. Or someone with a compromised immune system. When I see people like @thekatvond using their platform to promote raising her unborn child ‘without vaccinations’, I want her and the drones of ill-advised people underneath, including @kandeejohnson to see and know that this is the reality of ‘benign diseases’. You have the absolute unbelievable arrogance of a ‘choice’, because the rest of us responsible people/parents DID vaccinate. These diseases were almost gone, now they are back because some people think they know better than all the scientists, physicians and specialists in modern science. As I said in my post last year, vaccinate your kids. Or keep them the hell away from mine. (I took endless pictures of Dan in hospital to keep Jim up to speed as he had stayed home with our younger, traumatised kids. Dan gave his full permission for me use the picture and tell the story in detail. He’s our hero. And no, I am obviously not talking about you if you are unable to have the vaccines. You are who the rest of us should be trying to protect.)


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Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75141 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:13 am to
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Vaccines are important, but babies contracting meningitis is so rare that the CDC does not recommend the vaccine unless they are immune compromised.

This baby probably had one of those issues. Most kids do not get the meningococcal vaccine until they are older.

This is probably just an unfortunate event that doesn't have to have a scapegoat. And there's nothing wrong with putting an unvaccinated (meningococcal) 4 month old in daycare. Again, this is extremely rare.
All true as well.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12207 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:15 am to
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so less sick people leads to less sick people?


Then just a few dead kids along the way that costs the taxpayer billions.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17362 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:17 am to
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I’m fine with other people being government lemmings, but my kids aren’t getting a single vaccine. They haven’t been sick enough to miss a single day of school. No way I’m putting them at risk.


Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56970 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:17 am to
Unvaccinated and undocumented most likely
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38445 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:18 am to
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You start vaccines at 6 weeks to 8 weeks (~2 months).



Meningitis vaccines are not given that young, I’m pretty sure. Once again why herd immunity is so important.

Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17698 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:22 am to
I remember having to give LSU a copy of my immunization record. Is this no longer required?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75141 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:23 am to
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Meningitis vaccines are not given that young

They do get the pneumococcal vaccine which protects against Step pneumo meningitis.

Strep pneumo is the most common meningitis bacteria for that age group.

The previous poster that Scruffy agreed with is correct in that they don't receive the meningococcal vaccine at this age.

Scruffy didn’t read the article to see if they determined the bacteria.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 11:23 am
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