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re: Four family members killed in Christmas Eve plane crash in Florida

Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:41 am to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122548 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:41 am to
Merry Christmas g4.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7882 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:53 am to
He probably wasn’t airborne long enough for spatial disorientation to be a factor so possibly there was a malfunction. The whole thing just sad.
RIP to the victims and condolences to family and friends.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:55 am to
He had plenty of hours under his belt if he was flying a 340, which is a light cabin class twin. I would be curious to learn if he lost an engine after rotation. Light piston twins are the most difficult fixed wing aircraft to fly, safely. Asymmetric thrust is almost always deadly on takeoff with these aircraft. I've seen it happen firsthand.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46730 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:56 am to
quote:

You have a 1 and 25 million chance of dying in a plane crash


Not all planes are created equal, chris
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 10:24 am to
And the stats on private aviation are MUCH worse than commercial passenger aviation.

quote:

Private aircraft have a fatality rate about 19 times greater than driving. It is also true that a majority of the accidents that occur are pilot error (71%) and could have been prevented.


LINK
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 12:09 pm to
My condolences to you and your family.
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1291 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

He probably wasn’t airborne long enough for spatial disorientation to be a factor


Get in the soup while climbing and turning and tell me that again.

That is exactly when it is a factor.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18965 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:48 pm to
Highly likely that a large part of the other 29% has to do with shitty, cheap (or do it yourself) maintenance
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56227 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:54 pm to
I wonder if the pilot was rated for instruments flying and if not, he was crazy to fly in the soup.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18965 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:56 pm to
Agreed, but if he had been flying since the 80s and also flew in the military, he would have been instrument rated
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1291 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:23 am to
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Agreed, but if he had been flying since the 80s and also flew in the military, he would have been instrument rated


How long he has been flying has nothing to do with ratings. Lots of people only ever fly VFR. IFR is a completely different animal and is exponentially harder than VFR flying. Even an instrument rated pilot, who never gets in IMC conditions, can have a hard time when he finally does encounter complete white out of the windscreen.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 6:25 am to
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jesus, can you imagine the passengers reaction when when the engines weren’t restarting. I’d be like “ok, you can stop frickin with me now”


Passenger survived, pilot did not. Here is a photo of the first people to arrive on the scene. They witnessed it across the inlet and took a boat across to the wreckage. Tide was rising, and soon overtook the plane



This post was edited on 12/26/17 at 6:32 am
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 7:44 am to
IFR? I'm a pretty inexperienced pilot? My plane is relatively old?


Sure, lets take-off. Sorry, but ....morons
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17460 posts
Posted on 12/26/17 at 2:10 pm to
Horrible situation.

Easy to sit on my couch and judge the pilot but I cannot. I don’t know husband level of experience in the conditions he chose to try and take off.

I would guess he was a cautious guy if he was already in his 70’s.
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