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Formula 1 chief appalled to find team using Excel to manage 20,000 car parts

Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:50 am
Posted by rickgrimes
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 3:50 am
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There's a new boss at a storied 47-year-old Formula 1 team, and he's eager to shake things up. He's been saying that the team is far behind its competition in technology and coordination. And Excel is a big part of it.

Starting in early 2023, Williams team principal James Vowles and chief technical officer Pat Fry started reworking the F1 team's systems for designing and building its car. It would be painful, but the pain would keep the team from falling even further behind. As they started figuring out new processes and systems, they encountered what they considered a core issue: Microsoft Excel.

The Williams car build workbook, with roughly 20,000 individual parts, was "a joke," Vowles recently told The Race. "Impossible to navigate and impossible to update." This colossal Excel file lacked information on how much each of those parts cost and the time it took to produce them, along with whether the parts were already on order. Prioritizing one car section over another, from manufacture through inspection, was impossible, Vowles suggested.

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This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 7:51 am
Posted by Chrome
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 4:52 am to
Apparently they need a class on how to use Excel.
Posted by KLSU
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:01 am to
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Apparently they need a class on how to use Excel.


I’m not saying this is the best software to use for an inventory program but 20,000 rows in Excel isn’t that much data and what he was complaining about could have been easily fixed.
Posted by ApisMellifera
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:08 am to
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"When you start tracking now hundreds of thousands of components through your organization moving around, an Excel spreadsheet is useless,"


Spoken like someone who doesn't know how to use vlookup.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:17 am to
It sounds like this is the case.
Posted by MSTiger33
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:22 am to
Williams should worry more about designing something that isn’t a shite box than someone using excel.
Posted by SB9513
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:48 am to
Vlookup can't look left, xlookup is where it's at.

Sumifs by category would work fine for QOH totals so who knows how they have this thing setup!

It is kind of shocking with the money that these teams have that they're using Excel for anything other than financial data.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:50 am to
My man doesn't t know how to work Excel. I think the average Joe would have their mind blown if they realized how much accounting goes on in Excel. PowerBI is slowly taking more of the work share, but I still export out of accounting programs every day to use the data in Excel.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 5:59 am to
I bet this guy doesn’t know how to use the three sea shells either.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:04 am to
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Vlookup can't look left, xlookup is where it's at.




Posted by triggeredmillennial
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:07 am to
When properly built it is a better database platform than their consumer database platform.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:26 am to
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but 20,000 rows in Excel


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"When you start tracking now hundreds of thousands of components..."


Also, Microsoft Office = bloatware
Posted by rowbear1922
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:26 am to
Doesn’t sound like excels fault, sounds like they don’t know how to properly build workbooks
Posted by Dadren
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:29 am to
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I’m not saying this is the best software to use for an inventory program but 20,000 rows in Excel isn’t that much data and what he was complaining about could have been easily fixed.

This.

A dedicated dbms is probably a better solution but someone with decent excel skills could easily make this work with just a little effort and some lookup functions and drop downs.
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:45 am to
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Apparently they need a class on how to use Excel.

This. Blaming it on Excel is dumb. It’s not excel that’s the problem and it could do what they need. It’s whoever designed and maintains the workbook.

That said, there are much better products out there for inventory management, and since it’s F1, I’m sure they don’t mind spending the money.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:47 am to
I'm not a data guy but excel for 20,000 items doesn't seem that bad if used properly
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:48 am to
they need to learn how to use excel
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:49 am to
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xlookup is where it's at.


yup.
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 6:51 am to
Typical C-suite mindset. Oh let’s drop Excel and pay $200,000 a year to hire a software company to build the same tool for us that uses databases in the backend.
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 3/21/24 at 7:01 am to
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I'm not a data guy but excel for 20,000 items doesn't seem that bad if used properly


It's not. Excel maxes out at around 250,000 rows I believe. Depending on the data set, that could either be plenty or not nearly enough. Problem is if you max out the the sheet, and have it full of a bunch of vlookups and functions, it can take forever to load and save.
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