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re: Former Uvalde police chief & other officer charged after school shooting investigation

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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:20 pm to
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Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Literally says child endangerment in the OP


Literally says a count of child endangerment.
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:30 pm to
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Posted by DeBoersTheMan
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:35 pm to
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OMLandshark



I don't always agree with your takes, but from the day this happened we've been on the same page. This was one of the most disgraceful acts of cowardice I can ever recall seeing. frick each and every one of them.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:38 pm to
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Pretty much agree with this, unfortunately. Though, I think this is more of a symbolic move to charge them.



This.

A. frick those guys.

B. None of us knows what we would do. Except any of you military Baws who’ve actually been shot at. The sound of gunfire. Then the zip of a bullet. It’s a “won’t know til t happens” situation.


That’s one layer of the situation. But that’s more applicable to the first guys on scene. Walk in with a handgun and hear your outgunned, you press on with a pistol or run back for the rifle? In no universe do I see how that many cops, armed and suited up hang around that long.


They were cowards. But to think these guys will get life sentences is not correct. The families and people in Uvalde though will feel victimized again though when they get probation and a fine. Or 30 days in jail.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 7:40 pm to
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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:02 pm to
Such delicate little snowflakes.


My point is that they should have been charged ALEADY!


FFS.
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Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:04 pm to
They should be. Absolutely the most cowardice act in a long long time

Thank God for that border patrol agent who’s kid was at the school.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17740 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:11 pm to
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The former Uvalde school district police chief and a second former officer of the district were indicted Thursday in connection to the failed police response


They definitely shite the bed here. But can you image being sent to prison for not doing your job?

How much would your job need to pay if the consequence of not doing your job was prison? Worst case scenario if I frick up is getting fired.

I can’t imagine anyone working for this city ever again. I get the families want answers, but cmon.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:16 pm to
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Sorry, death penalty, just so any future pussy cop knows what he’ll face if he yucks it up


Good luck hiring new recruits for bullshite pay if they can be executed for having a bad day at work.

People talk big, but this is ridiculous. Imagine showing up hungover at work one day and sent to prison for life for not submitting that TPS report.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 8:38 pm to
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Good luck hiring new recruits for bullshite pay if they can be executed for having a bad day at work.

Isn't their job so dangerous they could be executed at work, at any moment it's odd hearing that being convicted by a jury of your peers to earn that execution would be somehow more off-putting.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8757 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:08 pm to
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Unfortunately, SCOTUS has determined that police have no duty to protect anybody.


Why do our tax dollars go to protect and serve? They didn’t have the balls to go in protect those kids, and now they will eventually get off because of a court ruling? frick that. Bad cops, good cops, most of those cops talk out both sides of the their mouth when it comes to protecting another cop.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1192 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:30 pm to
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What about the other police agencies that responded?


Arredondo was the situation commander. Buck stops with him.

He's skated this long because he is (D)ifferent in a (D)ifferent county. I doubt he gets convicted.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
67376 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:33 pm to
How did it possibly take this long?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21775 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:43 pm to
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indicted for what?????? dereliction of duty?????? Lets indict every one in Washington for dereliction


I am guessing you're not familiar with the UCMJ and what happens to military service members when they desert their post, derelict their duty, show cowardice, or just decide one day not to do their job?
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 9:50 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:47 pm to
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How much would your job need to pay if the consequence of not doing your job was prison? Worst case scenario if I frick up is getting fired.


This is more than not doing their job that day which was so messed up it was criminally negligent.

The school district literally policed themselves. The school district and its employee the district chief of police signed off on school shooter trainings, school security, signed off on having working secure doors that were kept shut per policy, the school district did nothing to address the shooter’s truancy which could had included court mandated counseling to help with issues driving his truancy, the school district either failed to address maintenance issues with doors or ignored how rules weren’t being followed by teachers when it was inconvenient for them (or both), and the school district failed to address schools getting lackadaisical with school lockdowns due to large numbers being caused by illegals and drugs dealers passing through which didn’t end up affecting a school.

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I can’t imagine anyone working for this city ever again


The 2 mentioned in OP were not part of the city’s police but were school district employees with the school district’s own police force which had legal authority to act as the police on all district campuses and property as well as having jurisdiction on them. It was also set up to have the school district’s chief plan and train for situations like this tragedy along with the legal authority to run the situation unless he backed off. The district and the chief also hired the other district police officers.

In a big event the district police was always going to require the city’s police and sheriff’s officers to help as it just had a handful of police officers. The chief could have allowed someone else to run the show that day, and even before anything happened he could have had a plan that immediately handed control over to more experienced police when the 3 police forces worked together on an active shooter. He did not do this and then shite himself.

They were glorified security guards that the district allowed to be real cops for them, and someone in the district should also be held accountable for letting that farce continue at the cost of all those children.
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 9:50 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21775 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:47 pm to
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They definitely shite the bed here. But can you image being sent to prison for not doing your job?


LOL. What? You mean the job you where you swear an oath to protect and serve your community from harm?

Tell me you're joking.
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
2662 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:30 pm to
I didn’t read the article. But I expect the system to incorrectly treat a police officer as above the law. He will probably be released from prison the same day with a bail between $50 - $250. He may serve 3-6 months of probation. But will still be eligible to collect a $200k per year pension until he dies, at which point he can transfer it to his kids.

He will live like a king for multiple decades, but will probably have to move to a different county and likely change his name.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8826 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:34 pm to
4: go outside, shoot him through the plate glass windows
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