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re: Former Broward County deptuty Scot Peterson arrested on 11 counts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:09 pm to slackster
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:09 pm to slackster
Being negligent at your job, especially if he actively stopped LEO’s from carrying out SOP that is specifically designed to save lives, that results in deaths is criminal and should be.
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:11 pm to sicboy
Now arrest the other 4 pussies chilling outside the school and their Janos Slynt of a sheriff and publicly hang them after a few months of being constantly shamed by the media at large. I’m typically against hangings, but we need to make an example of these pussies to other cops on what will happen to them if they don’t charge into the line of fire and do their fricking job.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:14 pm to Cosmo
quote:
Im not sure how i feel about this
Yeah he was a coward and a pussy
But he isnt the villain
In war, this would get you shot, killed, and then your officers and fellow soldiers would go out of their way to shame you and your entire family if you didn’t go into the line of fire for your country. No difference here whatsoever. Your job is to serve and protect, and if you’re unwilling to do it, turn in your fricking badge.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 6/4/19 at 7:28 pm to theenemy
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I dont see how Public Duty Doctrine is why he should be charged criminally.
You didn't read your own links or the citations therein. Government entities can be held liable, both in civil and criminal terms, and Peterson was inarguably a government entity. Police officers do owe a general duty of protection to the public and dereliction of that duty carries penalties beyond what a civilian would incur.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:05 pm to Clames
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You didn't read your own links or the citations therein. Government entities can be held liable, both in civil and criminal terms, and Peterson was inarguably a government entity. Police officers do owe a general duty of protection to the public and dereliction of that duty carries penalties beyond what a civilian would incur
You are confusing the common law public duty doctrine with special duty doctrine. Both are civil law.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:08 pm to Clames
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You didn't read your own links or the citations therein. Government entities can be held liable, both in civil and criminal terms
I get civilly...but I dont see where they are criminally. I'd be interested to see a case where Public Duty Doctrine was cited criminally.
quote:
Police officers do owe a general duty of protection to the public and dereliction of that duty carries penalties beyond what a civilian would incur.
Again....what cases have there been criminally.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:59 pm to theenemy
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[/img]Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:45 pm to Topwater Trout
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no way to prove he could've prevented any deaths or injuries. He should be fired and ridiculed but come on charging him with crimes is stupid
No, it's not fricking stupid. You don't join the police to collect a paycheck. His employment there could have been someone else much more willing to save lives.. He prevented that here. He should be held more responsible for not acting. At least, I think so. I know I could not do it, but that's why I am not a fricking police officer.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:11 pm to BengalBlood81
I saw interview on tv and Peterson was saying he couldn’t tell where the shots were coming from and that he thought there was a sniper.I wonder if he had hearing problem.I have fairly severe hearing loss in my left ear and problem I have is which ever way my right ear is pointing is where it sounds like noise is coming from.Cost me a couple of deer,I would be up a tree,hear a deer walking and be looking to my right and the sucker would be behind me to my left.
One night my dog was barking on the back porch,got flashlight and when I stepped out I could hear rattlesnake ratting Ike crazy,sounded to me that he was out in the grass but I couldn’t find him.Finally found him up against back wall about 2 feet from my left foot.Scared the crap out of me.
Point is I’m trying to give him the benefit of doubt,he had been deputy 20 something years,hard to believe he was coward.Maybe he choked,I don’t know.I do know there was plenty of of blame to go around and it seems to me he is being made scapegoat.
One night my dog was barking on the back porch,got flashlight and when I stepped out I could hear rattlesnake ratting Ike crazy,sounded to me that he was out in the grass but I couldn’t find him.Finally found him up against back wall about 2 feet from my left foot.Scared the crap out of me.
Point is I’m trying to give him the benefit of doubt,he had been deputy 20 something years,hard to believe he was coward.Maybe he choked,I don’t know.I do know there was plenty of of blame to go around and it seems to me he is being made scapegoat.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:24 am to bencoleman
The thing we are missing here is that most people think cops care. They don’t. They are just mercenaries.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:29 am to Sayre
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When it's your job specifically not to be one, yeah.
Can you show me the legal statute or precedent based on a civilian matter?
Not talking military.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:31 am to Cosmo
quote:
Im not sure how i feel about this
Yeah he was a coward and a pussy
But he isnt the villain
The crazy shooter is
That’s exactly how I feel. Now we’re blaming a coward officer, blaming the gun laws, blame the bullies, when it was a crazy villain that did the killing.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:45 am to Shiftyplus1
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I wonder if you (and anyone else who is arguing the same thing) would believe this if one of your children had been among the last that were gunned down
Logical fallacy. Appeal to emotion.
Comment:DENIED
Posted on 6/5/19 at 7:46 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Being negligent at your job, especially if he actively stopped LEO’s from carrying out SOP that is specifically designed to save lives, that results in deaths is criminal and should be.
I could see criminal charges if he intentionally misdirected LE for some nefarious agenda but not for anything less.
I imagine his training will be a big issue if it goes to trial.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:14 am to OMLandshark
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In war, this would get you shot, killed, and then your officers and fellow soldiers would go out of their way to shame you and your entire family if you didn’t go into the line of fire for your country. No difference here whatsoever. Your job is to serve and protect, and if you’re unwilling to do it, turn in your fricking badge.
You are such an emotional drama queen.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:20 am to Cdawg
Cruz is the person guilty of killing 17 people.
Go watch the two videos I posted in the same thread on the poliboard for a better understanding of the time line.
Officer Peterson could have easily prevented 6 kids from being killed. Peterson isn’t guilty of murder. But from what I saw, he was definitely negligent of his duties.
Go watch the two videos I posted in the same thread on the poliboard for a better understanding of the time line.
Officer Peterson could have easily prevented 6 kids from being killed. Peterson isn’t guilty of murder. But from what I saw, he was definitely negligent of his duties.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:36 am to theenemy
quote:From this law firm's website.
CULPABLE NEGLIGENCE VS. CIVIL NEGLIGENCE
Culpable negligence differs from conventional negligence (as used in Florida civil cases) in the degree of disregard a person must exhibit for the safety, rights, or welfare of others. In the civil context, negligence is established merely by showing a breach of duty to exercise reasonable care on behalf of others. If a person fails to act reasonably in regard to a duty they have towards others, then civil liability may be imposed.
With culpable negligence, the accused must not only act unreasonably with respect to his or her duty, but he or she must also exhibit gross recklessness, or wanton disregard for others.
I don't know if this helps.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:47 am to Rebel
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poliboard
I usually bypass this board but only since you recommend for me to, I will.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:55 am to Cdawg
LINK
NYT article with a bit more analysis
NYT article with a bit more analysis
quote:
Since he was first interviewed by Broward detectives two days after the killings, Mr. Peterson has said he did respond, by alerting the police, locking the school down and evacuating children in the courtyard. “There wasn’t even time to think,” Mr. Peterson told The Washington Post. “It just happened and I started reacting.” He said he has run the shooting over and over in his head. “It was my job, and I didn’t find him,” he said of the gunman.
Mr. Miller, who was the first supervisor on the scene, had told investigators that he heard three or four gunshots as he was arriving and believed they were coming from outside the school building. The investigation found that he had gone behind his car, outside of campus, and put on his bulletproof vest, and did not make his first radio transmission to direct a response until five minutes after he arrived — 10 minutes after the first radio communications about the shooting.
Meanwhile, four officers from the nearby Coral Springs Police Department arrived and entered the building where the shooting was occurring, the investigation showed....
States can create obligations for the police under certain circumstances — for example, a crossing guard who is assigned to keep children from getting run over. But those would be civil liabilities, said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor at the University of Florida School of Law, not criminal ones.
Professor Hutchinson noted that the criminal statutes under which Mr. Peterson was charged for his behavior during the shooting, neglect of a child and culpable negligence, were not specifically drafted for law enforcement officers and are usually applied to parents. “Normally we don’t think of police officers as caregivers for children,” he said.
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