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re: Ford CEO is going to kill his own Company.

Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:37 pm to
Didn't Saturn have kind of the model he's talking about with non-negotiable pricing and they didn't last for too long?
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3242 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:38 pm to
the average dumb arse American doesn't want to wait and wants/needs a car that day and will go down the street to whomever has one.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22417 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:41 pm to
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This is a valid question. Ford will still have to offer warranty, service, and parts offerings on their vehicles.

I imagine they will contract "Ford Certified" independent maintenance centers. These will be not attached to any dealer. My local dealer here in a 110K town in East Texas has hardly any stock on the lot. And they are not certified to sell EVs. They will likely find themselves in a slow death situation.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16553 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:45 pm to
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Didn't Saturn have kind of the model he's talking about with non-negotiable pricing and they didn't last for too long?

Pretty sure they failed because they were ugly pieces of shite.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3242 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:51 pm to
LOL. This is not going to happen. Ive seen this interview referenced other places and this is only pertaining to EVs. Dealers have millions of dollars in their facilities and aren't gonna go easy.

It's easy for tesla so far because they only have 4 models that are basically the same car. 5 colors with 2 or 3 interior options.

The big manufacturers love the dealers they are huge profit centers for them on many fronts and selling new cars are just a very small part of it. Many new cars are impulse purchases and many are sold through the service department on the spot when people can't afford to or don't want to wait for their car to be fixed.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16686 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:55 pm to
Can i still get the Platinum with no money down and 84mo @ 2%
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7889 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:55 pm to
That MFer can’t even deliver Broncos to people that reserved almost 2 years ago
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22417 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:56 pm to
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The big manufacturers love the dealers they are huge profit centers for them on many fronts and selling new cars are just a very small part of it.

Isn't there something a little hideous to Ford about a dealer upcharging 40K for a Raptor? They weren't going for MSRP at 84 grand, they were listed at 124 grand. This can't continue. And it won't. Perhaps the dealers need it to last a year only??

Check out Town East Ford in Dallas. If my memory serves me that was the upcharging dealer. There are likely many more.
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 5:58 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10305 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:56 pm to
We will see how this works for them. I think it is the future though.

People will buy directly as opposed to through third parties
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19081 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:59 pm to
Well he is unaware of his franchise agreements and free trade. Years ago jack Nasser (former ford ceo) got fired after a press conference when someone asked him about who was Eddie Irvine? Or something along those lines but Eddie was one of the highest paid ford employees that jack did not know who he was. He was their F1 driver and was like top 2-3 payed employee of Ford.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36507 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:01 pm to
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Years ago jack Nasser (former ford ceo) got fired after a press conference when someone asked him about who was Eddie Irvine? Or something along those lines but Eddie was one of the highest paid ford employees that jack did not know who he was. He was their F1 driver and was like top 2-3 payed employee of Ford.


I can't think of anything less relevant than this
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15720 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:05 pm to
Most vehicles today are pre orders anyway.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11322 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:06 pm to
You never get a good deal. You just haggle with them to get fricked a little less.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:08 pm to
No Fords on the lot is working great. Hyundai dealership in Laffy is fricking booming while the Ford dealer is selling shrimp from a used van.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4122 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:11 pm to
This was obviously the plan when "supply" was "limited" because of "China"
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24740 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:13 pm to
Ford = Fix it again Tony
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 6:16 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:14 pm to
It is only legal to sell new cars direct without a dealership in 13 states, He is going to have to spend a lot of money lobbing state legislators to change laws in the other states.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7635 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:14 pm to
Thinking like this will kill the US economy. We need fat. We need overhead. Fat and overhead = jobs.

Dealerships directly and indirectly employ a lot of people. When the US factory died small towns nationwide died. Now we're going to kill off retailers, dealerships, etc. All of these places make up an ecosystem of consumerism and we'll all suffer to save a few bucks on our cars. Yet the sales guys are out of a job and then they stop buying whatever it is that your company sells. Then the contractors who build dealerships are out of jobs and they too stop buying what it is your company sells. It is a bad cycle.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30015 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:16 pm to
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Ford = Fix it again Tony


F I A T

Didn't know Ford made these



Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22417 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:19 pm to
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Dealerships directly and indirectly employ a lot of people. When the US factory died small towns nationwide died. Now we're going to kill off retailers, dealerships, etc. All of these places make up an ecosystem of consumerism and we'll all suffer to save a few bucks on our cars. Yet the sales guys are out of a job and then they stop buying whatever it is that your company sells. Then the contractors who build dealerships are out of jobs and they too stop buying what it is your company sells. It is a bad cycle.

As said up earlier in the post, this is for EVs and a result of competing with Tesla. So looking out to 2030 for instance, how much of the business will be EV?
I have a Lightning reservation. My dealer at the salesman level has little information on how their EV business is going to work.
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