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Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:38 pm to GooseSix
the average dumb arse American doesn't want to wait and wants/needs a car that day and will go down the street to whomever has one.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:41 pm to Darth_Vader
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This is a valid question. Ford will still have to offer warranty, service, and parts offerings on their vehicles.
I imagine they will contract "Ford Certified" independent maintenance centers. These will be not attached to any dealer. My local dealer here in a 110K town in East Texas has hardly any stock on the lot. And they are not certified to sell EVs. They will likely find themselves in a slow death situation.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:45 pm to IAmNERD
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Didn't Saturn have kind of the model he's talking about with non-negotiable pricing and they didn't last for too long?
Pretty sure they failed because they were ugly pieces of shite.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:51 pm to GooseSix
LOL. This is not going to happen. Ive seen this interview referenced other places and this is only pertaining to EVs. Dealers have millions of dollars in their facilities and aren't gonna go easy.
It's easy for tesla so far because they only have 4 models that are basically the same car. 5 colors with 2 or 3 interior options.
The big manufacturers love the dealers they are huge profit centers for them on many fronts and selling new cars are just a very small part of it. Many new cars are impulse purchases and many are sold through the service department on the spot when people can't afford to or don't want to wait for their car to be fixed.
It's easy for tesla so far because they only have 4 models that are basically the same car. 5 colors with 2 or 3 interior options.
The big manufacturers love the dealers they are huge profit centers for them on many fronts and selling new cars are just a very small part of it. Many new cars are impulse purchases and many are sold through the service department on the spot when people can't afford to or don't want to wait for their car to be fixed.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:55 pm to GooseSix
Can i still get the Platinum with no money down and 84mo @ 2%
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:55 pm to GooseSix
That MFer can’t even deliver Broncos to people that reserved almost 2 years ago
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:56 pm to achenator
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The big manufacturers love the dealers they are huge profit centers for them on many fronts and selling new cars are just a very small part of it.
Isn't there something a little hideous to Ford about a dealer upcharging 40K for a Raptor? They weren't going for MSRP at 84 grand, they were listed at 124 grand. This can't continue. And it won't. Perhaps the dealers need it to last a year only??
Check out Town East Ford in Dallas. If my memory serves me that was the upcharging dealer. There are likely many more.
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:56 pm to GooseSix
We will see how this works for them. I think it is the future though.
People will buy directly as opposed to through third parties
People will buy directly as opposed to through third parties
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:59 pm to GooseSix
Well he is unaware of his franchise agreements and free trade. Years ago jack Nasser (former ford ceo) got fired after a press conference when someone asked him about who was Eddie Irvine? Or something along those lines but Eddie was one of the highest paid ford employees that jack did not know who he was. He was their F1 driver and was like top 2-3 payed employee of Ford.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:01 pm to Cracker
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Years ago jack Nasser (former ford ceo) got fired after a press conference when someone asked him about who was Eddie Irvine? Or something along those lines but Eddie was one of the highest paid ford employees that jack did not know who he was. He was their F1 driver and was like top 2-3 payed employee of Ford.
I can't think of anything less relevant than this
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:05 pm to GooseSix
Most vehicles today are pre orders anyway.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:06 pm to diat150
You never get a good deal. You just haggle with them to get fricked a little less.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:08 pm to GooseSix
No Fords on the lot is working great. Hyundai dealership in Laffy is fricking booming while the Ford dealer is selling shrimp from a used van.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:11 pm to GooseSix
This was obviously the plan when "supply" was "limited" because of "China"
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:13 pm to GooseSix
Ford = Fix it again Tony
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Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:14 pm to GooseSix
It is only legal to sell new cars direct without a dealership in 13 states, He is going to have to spend a lot of money lobbing state legislators to change laws in the other states.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:14 pm to GooseSix
Thinking like this will kill the US economy. We need fat. We need overhead. Fat and overhead = jobs.
Dealerships directly and indirectly employ a lot of people. When the US factory died small towns nationwide died. Now we're going to kill off retailers, dealerships, etc. All of these places make up an ecosystem of consumerism and we'll all suffer to save a few bucks on our cars. Yet the sales guys are out of a job and then they stop buying whatever it is that your company sells. Then the contractors who build dealerships are out of jobs and they too stop buying what it is your company sells. It is a bad cycle.
Dealerships directly and indirectly employ a lot of people. When the US factory died small towns nationwide died. Now we're going to kill off retailers, dealerships, etc. All of these places make up an ecosystem of consumerism and we'll all suffer to save a few bucks on our cars. Yet the sales guys are out of a job and then they stop buying whatever it is that your company sells. Then the contractors who build dealerships are out of jobs and they too stop buying what it is your company sells. It is a bad cycle.
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:16 pm to danilo
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Ford = Fix it again Tony
F I A T
Didn't know Ford made these
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:19 pm to nolanola
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Dealerships directly and indirectly employ a lot of people. When the US factory died small towns nationwide died. Now we're going to kill off retailers, dealerships, etc. All of these places make up an ecosystem of consumerism and we'll all suffer to save a few bucks on our cars. Yet the sales guys are out of a job and then they stop buying whatever it is that your company sells. Then the contractors who build dealerships are out of jobs and they too stop buying what it is your company sells. It is a bad cycle.
As said up earlier in the post, this is for EVs and a result of competing with Tesla. So looking out to 2030 for instance, how much of the business will be EV?
I have a Lightning reservation. My dealer at the salesman level has little information on how their EV business is going to work.
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