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re: Ford applies for patent that allows automaker to repossess cars remotely

Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by painman1
Member since Jan 2023
295 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:25 pm to
Our tax money bailed them out and this is the thanks we get?Thanks, Obama.

Not Ford. They did not get tax money.
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
2083 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:27 pm to
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Does the USPTO actually concern itself with wether or not there is prior case Le when approving patents?

Also, what are they actually patenting that isn’t already out there? Self driving feature already exists. Ability to remote access the car by 3rd party already exists. Would the fact that they can do both actually be a patentable feature?


They have the MPEP (manual) for these types of things that are updated with recent cases and give them guidelines. However, subject matter eligibility is very nebulous - even for veteran prosecution/litigators.

They do take in the prior art for consideration. You're making a 103 argument which is called obviousness (combining more than one reference/prior art). There are also guidelines for this. The Examiner will typically not grant the application on the first pass because of this and the applicant will try and argue something novel of the invention or amend the claims to make them more narrow.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 5:28 pm
Posted by painman1
Member since Jan 2023
295 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:27 pm to
Have a battery remote disconnect. Ain't going nowhere.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15115 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:28 pm to
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Have a battery remote disconnect. Ain't going nowhere.

Honestly, a post-it over the forward facing camera would probably be enough to prevent it.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22387 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:34 pm to
Maybe this will put river city out of business
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
14943 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:37 pm to
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Have a battery remote disconnect. Ain't going nowhere.



Install a battery cutoff switch like 18 wheelers have, like $60 total.

Or just remove your red battery cable every time you park it somewhere. Defeated the new "tech"
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3269 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 5:54 pm to
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I thought Ford was the only one not to get a bailout.
that is correct.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101833 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:00 pm to
Can you auto-repo a car that is broken down on the side of the road?
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
20091 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:10 pm to
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Have a battery remote disconnect. Ain't going nowhere.


The issue is they want to recover it and this wouldn’t help. They want it to drive off private property so tow trucks can get it without going onto private property.

If owners disable battery that keeps it on private property and prevents tow trucks from getting it.

However, if Ford disengages the electronics then the past due owner can’t drive it ever until paid.

This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9694 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:19 pm to
Police will have a backdoor to this immediately
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15115 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:19 pm to
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Police will have a backdoor to this immediately

They already do. They've been killing OnStar cars remotely for years.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130459 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:23 pm to
Surely if they can do this they can make the car drive to the dealership to get recalls fixed and email the owner they will be back in 30 days or less.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
7123 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:23 pm to
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thought Ford was the only one not to get a bailout.


Facts and this board........
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17734 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:31 pm to
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Take the wheels off it each night

Why? Just jack up the front and rear. No need to actually remove the wheels.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:32 pm to
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Police will have a backdoor to this immediately

Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2337 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 6:33 pm to
Ford did not take bailout money. They saw the apocalypse coming and took a multibillion dollar loan out just weeks before it crashed.
Posted by painman1
Member since Jan 2023
295 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:00 pm to
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Ford did not take bailout money. They saw the apocalypse coming and took a multibillion dollar loan out just weeks before it crashed.


Alan Mulally, Ford CEO at the time averted the disaster and bail outs. However, Ford asked the Federal government for a 9 billion dollar line of credit just in case the economy got worsened.
Posted by footballdude
BR
Member since Sep 2010
1107 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:40 pm to
Problem is:

Can't repossess it remotely if it don't run.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83648 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 7:53 pm to
Some lady is at her abusive boyfriend's trailer in the sticks, goes to flee during a fight, car has repo'd itself, she gets injured/killed

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75705 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:26 pm to
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picked up by a tow truck


How's that different from a Ford that isn't being repossessed?
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