re: Forbes - CEOs Will Be Clamping Down On Employees

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This is primarily what I meant when I said up thread that I value the human interaction at the office. It’s not necessarily the small talk in the break room, but being able to walk down to someone’s office and talk out a problem face to face instead of calling/emailing/hopping on Teams, or whatever.

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I cannot count how many times I've been able to explain a situation and solve it in minutes in person vs how it would take probably 30 minutes in teams to solve.

I don’t mind going into the office 2-3x but 5x a week just because doesn’t work for me

Working from home works for some. Too bad most folks are lazy.

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I really wonder about the makeup of people who insist on remote only work and bash in-person as meaningless. Have they never seen the benefits of being in the same room as someone and talking through a problem which leads to more ideas and solutions? It's like we're doing everything to just become mindless drones. I totally agree one size fits all, or 100% one way versus the other is likely not the solution, but writing off in-person is a mistake.

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Remote work obviously doesn't fit into every scenario, but I've done both onsite and remote work (granted I've been out of school for 13 years and 11 of those have been remote). I don't feel that I collaborate any less remotely than I did onsite. I still have calls with a co-worker multiple times per week to collaborate and work on solutions together. There's just much less bullshitting with co-workers that goes on in remote work vs onsite. I can see people needing/wanting that, but I've never been one to socialize with co-workers anyway.

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I don’t see it my man.

The advantage in office is a casual bump in with another team and being able to pitch stuff.

On screen with your team in teams works nearly the same.

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I bet if a study was conducted on retention of information and general engagement in a zoom or teams setting compared to an in-person setting, you'd see it.

It would be drastic depending on the kind of work being performed.

What is your role in your company, if you don't mind? Do you manage people? Were you in a similar role before the WFH rush as you were during or are currently? It's hard to believe anyone with a team they are responsible for can't recognize the difference if they've seen both sides.

It holds true beyond the walls of your organization too if you are in client service. Clients started to fricking suck when everything went remote.

One of the ironies of life is the worse the economy gets, the worse companies treat their workers.

A few thoughts for the crowd:

1) These boomer CEOs might "win" this round due to threat of layoffs, but the hook has been set. The next generation of managers will be much more likely to embrace WFH where it makes sense to do so. And when the market turns again - and it will - these employees will remember how this was handled.

2) I think there is a distinction between WFH and Remote. By allowing remote, companies expand their talent pool, which makes a whole lot of sense. WFH if all that means to you is not commuting to your office 20 min away, yeah, I think that is different.

3) Most of the complaints on here and among CEOs with regard to WFH/Remote revolve around the manager's inability to manage unless they are standing over the employee, and/or the inability to use the tech tools available. If a manager can't show an employee how to do something via a screen share, and needs to physically be next to the employee to point at a screen, that's a manager problem, not an employee problem.

But the reality is, these old CEOs and managers don't want to learn the tech needed to make this work. It's much easier for them to say "I sign the checks, come to the office" than it is for them to adapt their style and abilities to the new reality.

The boomers will win this round, and everyone else will just keep counting down until the boomers retire for good.

The only people who resent WFH are people that are jealous they don’t have jobs that allow them to WFH.

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What blows mymind is the people who are getting NEW jobs that are 100% remote.

How tf does a person get up to speed quickly and efficiently in that environment.

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There's these neat things called a computer, and internet, and a webcam, and a phone. If used correctly, allows for all the training you need.

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Until the boomers die.*

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A lot will work until they die. Because they know nothing else.

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What blows mymind is the people who are getting NEW jobs that are 100% remote. How tf does a person get up to speed quickly and efficiently in that environment.

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It’s not hard at all…