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re: for the "there are good public schools in the suburbs" crowd

Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:22 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58669 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:22 am to
personally, if you can afford it, i think SPS is definitely worth it over mhs and fhs. i can't speak to the others.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:25 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:23 am to
Respectfully, I disagree. And that’s coming from someone who did the Catholic school route
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85719 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:24 am to
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Your opinion is mis-informed.

When COVID ends and they let adult volunteers back in schools... go spend some time volunteering at your local high school. Maybe you might learn something.


Oh, advocate-masquerading-as-teacher, please tell us the error of our ways
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40114 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:27 am to
From the article:

quote:

Students said the stickers were put up on many teachers' doors last year and this school year.

But last week, students said they began noticing the stickers were being removed from the classroom doors by the administration.

The school has a new principal this year.


So it was ok last year but not ok this year. New principal, new rules, I guess.

quote:

In a statement, Irving ISD said district policy does not allow teachers to use classrooms to "transmit personal beliefs regarding political or sectarian issues."

"To ensure that all students feel safe regardless of background or identity, the district has developed guidelines to ensure that posters, banners, and stickers placed in classrooms, hallways, or offices are curriculum-driven and neutral in viewpoint," the district said in the statement.

The district did not comment on the status of the teachers involved but said in part that district policy prohibits teachers from using classrooms 'to transmit personal beliefs' on certain issues.

Specifically political or sectarian issues.


How is being gay a political or sectarian issue?

I assume this principal would take down a 10 commandments poster with the quickness, right?

Here's the deal. No one is being hurt by these stickers being up. No one is being targeted by these stickers being up.

This is f'n stupid. If you don't want to be gay, then don't go talk to the teacher about being gay.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37644 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:27 am to
Sorry not sorry. You can do/be whatever you want
to. But trying to force everyone around you to accept it when you know they won’t is gonna lead to problems. If you can’t handle the problems, don’t force the issue.
Wait till you’re an adult and have some options. Then you can come out and be whatever you think you are.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40114 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:28 am to
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Oh, advocate-masquerading-as-teacher, please tell us the error of our ways


Gay kids still struggle through school a lot more than non-gay kids.

To say it's all the same "now" is completely incorrect.

I'm not masquerading as a teacher. I'm acting like someone who isn't a psychopath.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25771 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:28 am to
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Why is there any club in high school?


Are you trying to compare a "where I like to stick my dick sex club" to something like, say, the band? I wonder sometimes if you're just trolling because of the obvious differences between the two. No one gives a shite where you or anyone else puts their dick. Stop trying to make this a thing.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:31 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24170 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:29 am to
Life is tough and choices have consequences.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40114 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:31 am to
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But trying to force everyone around you to accept it when you know they won’t is gonna lead to problems


What does that even mean... forcing everyone around you to accept it.

Sure... there a few gay teen activists. Very few. Most gay teens just want to be left TF alone. They aren't "forcing" the QB to dump the cheerleader girlfriend and ask the gay math nerd on a date.

Acceptance doesn't mean you like it or even support it. It simply means you aren't a prick to the kid because of it.

It's not hard. Don't be a prick. That's it.

What's the old saying... if you don't like gay marriage... don't get a gay marriage...
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28421 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:32 am to
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I have no problem with putting things up to indicate you as a teacher are available to help.


Again, it's polarizing. Teachers who don't have the sticker are perceived as being bigots. Your "inclusionary" sticker sets that teacher apart from other teachers, and vice versa.

It should be made abundantly clear to all students that there are trained counselors in the counseling center that are available anytime.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40114 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Life is tough and choices have consequences.


Right. Kids learn that other kids, but mostly adults, are pricks.

And the thought that maybe life could be better... nah... can't have that.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40114 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:32 am to
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It should be made abundantly clear to all students that there are trained counselors in the counseling center that are available anytime.


Why are you posting lies?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9293 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:32 am to
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Yeah, let's pretend they give a shite about the cause instead of getting out of class.


I remember supporting a teacher’s strike when it meant not having class and then getting pissed when district brought in fill ins and made students report to school after 1 day or 2.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:32 am to
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I think the "hatred" has declined to where it is largely on par with any other characteristic that draws some bullying. Being fat, being ugly, being dorky, etc. Gone are the days where it's 99% of the school against you, IMO.



Based on what my high school kids tell me, I don't think it's declined enough to where we should dust off our hands and move on from it. I also don't think we should elevate anti-gay bullying over other bullying, but if what my kids tell me is accurate, it's the predominant form of bullying at their school.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25771 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:33 am to
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God, I can’t imagine my sexuality being my whole identity.


You know, 20 years ago, maybe this was a thing. But nowadays, the only place that gays are being persecuted is in places like the middle east. In America, NO ONE CARES. That's why this is so stupid.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3825 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:33 am to
There are tons of nut job teachers in private schools too. I hate to burst your bubble
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85719 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:36 am to
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Gay kids still struggle through school a lot more than non-gay kids.



More than fat kids? Than offbeat kids? Etc.? Based on what metric?

And I note you have nothing to say about the concept that dramatically emphasizing the difference - "SAFE SPACE HERE" - is counterproductive. It implies "you're not safe out there" despite almost all evidence to the contrary.

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I'm not masquerading as a teacher. I'm acting like someone who isn't a psychopath.



Sure, we're the crazy ones for suggesting that the modern emphasis on class, race, sexuality distinctions that conveniently coincides with spiking rates of mental illness diagnoses and steady increases in suicide rates might be a bad thing.

frick us right?

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28421 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:37 am to
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It should be made abundantly clear to all students that there are trained counselors in the counseling center that are available anytime.


Why are you posting lies?



What the frick are you even talking about? Did you even bother to rub two brain cells together before you typed that?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24170 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:37 am to
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Here's the deal. No one is being hurt by these stickers being up. No one is being targeted by these stickers being up.


The exact opposite can also be said. There should be no special anything for these people.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41081 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:37 am to
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Does that really matter?

Doesn't matter how big the "class" is... 2 kids committing suicide is awful.



It is awful, but 2 out of a mega graduating class at a 6A Texas high school that has 1,000 kids per grade level and 3 kids out of a 35 person class is starkly different no?
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