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re: For people over 60: especially that lived in NOLA Was Oswald an assassin or a spook
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:19 pm to REG861
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:19 pm to REG861
The only points I made is that A) Judyth Vary Baker wove a fantastic tale, and given the circumstances, is probably crazy. B) Ed Haslam, who may or may not be a nut, but was nevertheless encouraged by Judyth Vary Baker's book and I believe endorsed her version of events, capitalized on her bullshite.
If you read either or both of the books, I don't see how you can believe either one. There is way too much speculation and way too many implausible events in both stories.
If you read either or both of the books, I don't see how you can believe either one. There is way too much speculation and way too many implausible events in both stories.
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:21 pm to TutHillTiger
Oswald was a “wanna be” and a “hanger around” kind of guy. He was desperate to be relevant in some way.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:23 pm to TutHillTiger
Garrison was a nutcase. Why would anybody believe him?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:30 pm to REG861
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Also, I know Judyth Baker, casually. She isn’t some schizo.
Just saw your edit.
Next time you speak with Judyth, ask her how Alton Ochsner offered her a scholarship to Tulane Med School as a high school senior and decided to revoke it only two years later, while she was already doing "cancer research", but working for a food distributor.
Nothing about that story makes any sense. I don't know if she's "schizo", but she's something. It's just an unbelievable story.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:37 pm to White Roach
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Nothing about that story makes any sense
It’s almost as though the official cover story is bullshite. If you actually think she or Oswald were actually “working” at Reilly foods you’re a little dense.
But fine, don't believe her story. I take her with a grain of salt myself. Just don't try and tell me Oswald being associates with Ferrie and De Mohrenschildt (both of whom ended up dead under sketchy circumstances) is some innocuous coincidence. Better yet, read Coup in Dallas (which has little if anything to do with Judyth Baker) and get back to me.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:51 pm to REG861
Good Lord...
Yes, I admit to being gullible. I've been living in a world of delusion. It's obviously true that Alton Ochsner recruited a high school student from Florida to come to New Orleans and create "cancer causing monkey viruses" to poison Fidel Castro and act as a honey pot for Lee Harvey Oswald.
But her being employed by Reily and Co. is the unbelievable part. Got it!
Yes, I admit to being gullible. I've been living in a world of delusion. It's obviously true that Alton Ochsner recruited a high school student from Florida to come to New Orleans and create "cancer causing monkey viruses" to poison Fidel Castro and act as a honey pot for Lee Harvey Oswald.
But her being employed by Reily and Co. is the unbelievable part. Got it!
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:58 pm to REG861
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Just don't try and tell me Oswald being associates with Ferrie and De Mohrenschildt (both of whom ended up dead under sketchy circumstances) is some innocuous coincidence.
I never mentioned either of those names in my posts. Nor did I mention Guy Bannister, Clay Shaw, or Jim Garrison, or any presumed relationship with Oswald. I said Judyth Vary Baker was full of shite. She could write that the sky was blue and I'd have to walk outside to double check.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:10 pm to TX Tiger
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Dr. Mary’s Monkey (the book)
NO SocialiteDR. Brobson Lutz gave somewhat of an insider's review of the book that was pretty dismissive of it.
Brobson Lutz on Dr Mary's Monkey- MyNO.com link
However, he wrote the review in 2017. Some of the things that he discounts as far-fetched: viruses being cultivated to use against unsuspecting populations and hastily developed vaccines killing people.
Yesterday's conspiracies, todays news...
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:19 pm to L1C4
quote:in what way?
Garrison was a nutcase.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:41 pm to GreenRockTiger
I know less about Oswald than I do Barry Seal. I heard all those stories about Barry before there was a book.
My dad said that Barry could walk in a room for 30 seconds and walk out and describe everything in that room in detail. He had a short term photographic memory which was actually better than my dad’s photographic memory. The story was about why you didn’t play cards with Barry unless he was really drunk. (You think the CIA could do something with that) He was not just an incredible pilot but probably genius level smart, my dad had 4 degrees and was “wicked smart” so if he impressed him….
He was obviously youngest pilot in history etc, and was basically executed for pissing off Bush the wiser.
So if the CIA was involved in smuggling billions in drugs in 80s, to pay for an illegal war (the movie was bs.) and they were and it’s actually been admitted now, you think getting rid of a meddling president is some big deal.
Probably not even agencies top ten. It was George Bush the wiser that said “if the public ever knew half of what we have done they would rebel and kill us all”
My dad said that Barry could walk in a room for 30 seconds and walk out and describe everything in that room in detail. He had a short term photographic memory which was actually better than my dad’s photographic memory. The story was about why you didn’t play cards with Barry unless he was really drunk. (You think the CIA could do something with that) He was not just an incredible pilot but probably genius level smart, my dad had 4 degrees and was “wicked smart” so if he impressed him….
He was obviously youngest pilot in history etc, and was basically executed for pissing off Bush the wiser.
So if the CIA was involved in smuggling billions in drugs in 80s, to pay for an illegal war (the movie was bs.) and they were and it’s actually been admitted now, you think getting rid of a meddling president is some big deal.
Probably not even agencies top ten. It was George Bush the wiser that said “if the public ever knew half of what we have done they would rebel and kill us all”
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:49 pm to TutHillTiger
My dad used to say the biggest difference between a spook and a mobster is that spooks buy their suits at Brooks Brothers and Mobster at Saks 5th Avenue. Both were dangerous as hell.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:18 pm to White Roach
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I never mentioned either of those names in my posts. Nor did I mention Guy Bannister, Clay Shaw, or Jim Garrison, or any presumed relationship with Oswald. I said Judyth Vary Baker was full of shite. She could write that the sky was blue and I'd have to walk outside to double check.
Fair enough. My interest is primarily with jfk and the Shaw network, not Baker and Sherman, aids etc.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:26 pm to REG861
She has pictures of him in her book so she obviously knew him. I don’t know what LHO was doing at that company but it’s was clearly a front for them, (just like my neighbors son just left the agency as a Middle East analyst to work for some international tech company I have never heard of. He also showed up last Christmas with a full beard looking like just an Arab and I overheard him speaking Farsi once on his cell phone.
Nobody ever leaves the agency, once a spook always a spook
Nobody ever leaves the agency, once a spook always a spook
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:44 pm to Judge Smails
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can someone define spook to clarify things..?
Generally a slang term for a CIA operative but could be any government agency employee involved in intelligence/espionage.
They wrote a book on the USS scorpion sub sinking in the 60's. In the book they listed my uncle as a spook, but not by name. He got sick and another guy's wife was having a baby. So they dropped them off in the Azores before they sunk. My uncle was in charge of gathering Intel on Russian subs. They either had a torpedo malfunction or Russian sub sank them.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:28 am to TutHillTiger
The whole thing was about getting Cuba back and getting the government off the mob's back. Supposedly Marcello and a lot of other bosses were pretty opposed to the idea but went along with it which I find interesting because Chicago was a powerful family, especially outside of NYC, as was Marcello and Trafficante but I cant help but think NYC bosses had to ok the effort to get JFK elected, which is rarely talked about (Gambino, Luccessee, the NYC Commission (as the Commission included all the Country's bosses at that time), etc.).
As for Oswald, he was what was referred to as a nut or cowboy and they are dispensable (i.e., set them up for a job because they are crazy enough to do it, then take them out right after because they are crazy enough to not see the obvious outcome of doing what they were propped up to do).
As for Oswald, he was what was referred to as a nut or cowboy and they are dispensable (i.e., set them up for a job because they are crazy enough to do it, then take them out right after because they are crazy enough to not see the obvious outcome of doing what they were propped up to do).
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 5:30 am
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:37 am to TutHillTiger
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What say ye? Anybody remember him or have any stories about Ferry, Shaw, Russo, Bannister, Garrison, the pilot, etc
Sorry....no hables ingles Mr. CIA man
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:53 am to TutHillTiger
The only thing I got is that my grandma said she used to ride the bus every day at the same time as David Ferrie:
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:52 am to Wing T
quote:Exactly, David Ferrie died in ‘67, Clay Shaw in ‘74
You might want to change the thread title to anybody over 80.
The most simple explanation is usually the truth.
In this case, that’s the truth: Oswald acted alone.
Otherwise something would have come out by now (60 years on)
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:10 am to GetCocky11
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Those 2 year olds made Oswald do it.
I was one of those 2 year olds. He was our puppet, I got to pull the strings once.
Posted on 5/10/23 at 7:50 am to Y.A. Tittle
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there's a little placard on the bar at Le Bon Tons on Magazine denoting where he supposedly used to sit and drink, but that's about all I know substantively of any connection to the city
He was kicked out of Henry’s one time.
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