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re: For folks that are old enough to remember the high inflation of 70s-80s

Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43145 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:40 pm to
This is a supply chain and labor shortage inflation which isn't like the 70s and a supply chain inflation like we are having hasn't happened in forever. So you cant compare the 2. Gasoline, energy, food will come back down. I believes cars and electronics will come back down once world wide chip production gets back up. The labor shortage in The US perplexes me but 2 million boomers did retire early so that's a chunk of it.
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7647 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:50 pm to
You will see it fall somewhere in between is basically what will happen. More competition more supplies to build make or produce products will make for competitive pricing. Problem is companies now know what people will pay so it will never go back to pre-inflation anywhere for anything.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92264 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:53 pm to
Damn Cosmo, that’s deep, man.
Posted by Hank R Hill
Arlen,TX
Member since Jan 2017
581 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:55 pm to
I remember CD's being "the bomb" and all the "old people" bragging about their CD's like they were a status symbol. Also if you are in debt and a gainfully employed baw your old debt will be less of a burden over time. Wages will rise but those notes will stay the same if your banker didn't con you into a balloon note. (Seems like those were things too, back in the day.) Just don't let Bawette talk you into financing a new pair of truck nuts at the higher prices & rates. If you can buy them now, while the interest is low, the payment will seem minimal in a couple of years when the plant gives you a cost of living raise.

If I remember right gas was 79 cents a gallon and went way over a dollar but never got down below a dollar again. Plan for songs like "Are the good times really over" to hit the market and the next President to pardon the musician that sings it

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:55 pm to
I can't imagine buying a home right now and paying 10's of K's over asking. The whole market is just fricked.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
16667 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:11 pm to
Prices will drop after China takes over America and achieves its goal. I give it 5 years.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7376 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:15 pm to
I was a kid but I remember getting out of school a couple of hours early in the later 1970s because the school needed to save money.

I also remember getting just flannel shirts and socks for Christmas one year in the early 80s. My parents didn't have money for presents because my dad had gone out on his own with a consultancy business at the worst possible time.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32730 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:36 pm to
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interest rates hitting 29%


When was this?
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
2080 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:40 pm to
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The labor shortage in The US perplexes me but 2 million boomers did retire early so that's a chunk of it


I’m no boomer but an older Gen Xer. I retired at 54 two year's ago. My portfolio has taken a hit, but it will have to go much lower for me to reenter the workplace again.
This post was edited on 6/19/22 at 9:42 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:48 pm to
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But what happens when the market implodes and then you're underwater?


Same thing as the 80s, you are stuck if you need to sell, those that absolutely have to sell, and had a healthy down payment will sell at a loss. Prices decline, interest rates fall a little, people start buying houses again, and a new cycle starts, nothing that hasn’t happened before.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20918 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:52 pm to
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I can't imagine buying a home right now and paying 10's of K's over asking. The whole market is just fricked.
Real Estate has long been a great hedge against inflation. Low interest rates just spurred activity
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:55 pm to
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interest rates hitting 29%

When was this?


The highest 30 year mortgage rate in history was 18.45% in 1981.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 9:56 pm to
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Same thing as the 80s, you are stuck if you need to sell, those that absolutely have to sell, and had a healthy down payment will sell at a loss. Prices decline, interest rates fall a little, people start buying houses again, and a new cycle starts, nothing that hasn’t happened before.


You're just screwed either way. Either by higher interest rates or inflated prices. My area (Huntsville) is just out of this world. And it isn't going to slow down most likely.
Posted by DamnGood86
Member since Aug 2019
1292 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:25 pm to
Inflation first jumped in about 1967 and did not get back down below 3% until about 1995. Was between 6% and 12% from about 1975 to 1984.

I don't see this ending in a couple months.
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:38 pm to
First house we built/bought was in 1985 and we took a chance on going with an ARM to get 8% financing versus 13% for a fixed loan. Thankfully the rates didn't go up much and couple years later we refinanced for (IIRC) somewhere around 6% and locked it in.

Hell of a time in the home loan market back then.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:40 pm to
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First house we built/bought was in 1985 and we took a chance on going with an ARM to get 8% financing versus 13% for a fixed loan. Thankfully the rates didn't go up much and couple years later we refinanced for (IIRC) somewhere around 6% and locked it in.


So you paid the same interest rates people are paying now pretty much
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12635 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:41 pm to
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So you paid the same interest rates people are paying now pretty much

Same house is probably 10x the price now.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:43 pm to
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Same house is probably 10x the price now.




Well it was nearly 30 years ago, so I would hope so
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:44 pm to
It seems like 29% doesn’t matter it shut damn near everything down. Even government projects planned for years were put on hold
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 10:45 pm to
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Same house is probably 10x the price now.


Maybe not quite that much but you ain't far off. That chart was done in 2019, so it's gotten worse since then as well.

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