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re: For all the supporters of losing rights due to a cough

Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:34 pm to
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Right to assemble peacefully

There is no generic right to assemble. It's an ancillary right connected to your right to political speech protected by the First Amendment. Going to a funeral or playing a baseball game is not political speech. Moreover, even political speech can be regulated in a neutral/non-content oriented way, e.g., you don't have the right to protest in front of someone's house at 3 a.m. with a megaphone.

What's the next alleged violation you have in mind?
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:35 pm to
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Would they be considered a peaceful assembly of people?


No, and even then the right to peacefully assemble can be limited if the government shows that it is necessary to achieve a compelling government interest. Spoiler alert: keeping tens or hundreds of thousands of people from dying would be a compelling government interest.

It is really upsetting that your vote counts the same as mine.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 2:37 pm
Posted by MileHigh_Tiger
The penalty box
Member since Mar 2020
179 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:36 pm to
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What's the next alleged violation you have in mind?

Here comes the part where he calls you gay or something
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2939 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Scapegoating at its finest.


Ignorance at it's finest. Did he create the stay at home order in any state? Did he implement a curfew in any county or parish?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:37 pm to
Do you enjoy being so fricking stupid you can't understand why we are in a lockdown?

Or are you just an idiot who listens to radio/TV shows that spit out insane bullshite and then repeats what they say?
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:37 pm to
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Ignorance at it's finest. Did he create the stay at home order in any state? Did he implement a curfew in any county or parish?


So you're saying governors... even mini-Trumps like DiSantis in Florida... would have implemented those orders without Trump's recommendation? You're playing semantics to fit your own world view in which Trump is responsible for nothing. He is the President of the United States during a global pandemic.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41007 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:39 pm to
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Still waiting for someone to show which one of their constitutional rights have been violated.


I think the wholesale shut down on entire industries could be considered a taking.

Any articles on that?
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18310 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:39 pm to
I would love nothing more right now than national guard tanks and humvees scattered on major roads/bridges in cities and penalizing those who are not staying in their homes. If you have no groceries/bags from store, work note, etc then you get fined. Only way this crap will end because people are idiots and won’t stay at home.... lives would be saved if there were some consequences
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 10:57 pm
Posted by wheelr
New Iberia
Member since Jul 2012
6239 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:42 pm to
Guy arrested for being by himself in the ocean.

LINK

Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:43 pm to
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I think the wholesale shut down on entire industries could be considered a taking.

Any articles on that?

Nah, that would not be considered a Takings Clause issue. Probably closer to Commerce Clause or a Youngstown Sheet & Tube situation. Oh, and just the general police powers of individual states to regulate business ventures.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:43 pm to
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I think the wholesale shut down on entire industries could be considered a taking.


A regulation restricting the use of property to further legitimate public ends, will not be considered a taking merely because it impairs the value or the utility of that land.

LINK
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11353 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:44 pm to


Please be sarcasm
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:48 pm to
The mental gymnastics on display is simply amazing
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11931 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:51 pm to
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I would love nothing more right now than national guard tanks and numbers scattered on major roads/bridges in cities and penalizing those who are not staying in their homes. If you have no groceries/bags from store, work note, etc then you get fined. Only way this crap will end because people are idiots and won’t stay at home.... lives would be saved if there were some consequences


Wow, what a pos. Daddy government is not responsible for my wellbeing and health and They damn sure don’t have the best intentions in mind. This is coming from someone that worked in Congress for years in DC.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29709 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:23 pm to
Your health is not the government’s responsibility
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:30 pm to
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Your health is not the government’s responsibility


In that case I’m sure you’d be fine if the government no longer enforced health codes ensure that restaurants aren’t endangering public health?

And they definitely shouldn’t require testing of pharmaceuticals to make sure companies don’t rush a product to market or make false claims on their drugs’ capabilities, obviously.
This post was edited on 4/4/20 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29709 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:35 pm to
That is a convenient role but not their responsibility
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:36 pm to
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That is a convenient role but not their responsibility


The Supreme Court of the United States disagrees with you. But I'm sure you're more qualified to weigh in on such matters.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
29709 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:43 pm to
There was an FDA in 1777?
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