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re: Follow up to Cosmo's Bitcoin Thread: A trip down memory lane

Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by HattiesburgTiger5439
Hattiesburg ms
Member since Sep 2023
196 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:44 pm to
If he did sell at 10k, he wouldve 100% bought back into the coin at some point after it dropped again. Hell after it split 4 yrs ago it hit 69k then hit a low of 15k its at over 72k.
It will get to 100k this split 100%
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10052 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:55 pm to
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LSU Russian

Don’t ever listen to some jerkoff Russian. Those scabs are not to be trusted.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65045 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:02 pm to
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If he did sell at 10k, he wouldve 100% bought back into the coin at some point after it dropped again. Hell after it split 4 yrs ago it hit 69k then hit a low of 15k its at over 72k.
It will get to 100k this split 100%


Look I appreciate your enthusiasm but you're not a fricking mind reader dude. You couldn't possibly know what he did with 100% certainty. And I personally don't think you can predict the future of BTC 100% either
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:35 pm to
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Some even still digging their heels in the dirt (i.e. Russian)
Why wouldn't I still be "digging my heels in the dirt" as you put it?

Bitcoin is STILL a digital ponzi scheme just like it was 10 years ago.

Bitcoin itself generates no income to increase its value. It relies completely upon new money coming in to drive up the price for the old money already invested.

That is the principle upon which ponzi schemes exist.

Nothing has changed. So why should I change my opinion about the eventual outcome for bitcoin?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80782 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:39 pm to
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Bitcoin itself generates no income to increase its value. It relies completely upon new money coming in to drive up the price for the old money already invested.

So would PMs be Ponzis as well? What about companies that are cash flow negative with no assets? What about land that doesn't earn income? How about trading cards and fine art?

None of those things generate income and completely rely on new money coming in to drive up the price for the money already invested.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:51 pm to
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So would PMs be Ponzis as well?
No, because precious metals have intrinsic value to be used in manufacturing and medical processes, crafted into jewelry and other uses which give them value.

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What about land that doesn't earn income?
Land CAN generate income and therefore has a value based on potential future use.

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What about companies that are cash flow negative with no assets?
Such as?

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How about trading cards and fine art?
Those things don't claim to be a currency. And they can be held and admired for either their beauty, their historical significance or sentimental value.

Frankly, the fact that you ask such questions reveals a fundamental level of ignorance on your part. But then again, that's exactly the type of person who is attracted to bitcoin.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17184 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:23 pm to
Fwiw I remember the last BTC thread he posted in. He said he sold enough to be financially independent, but didn’t sell everything.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80782 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:25 pm to
So what you are telling me is that things can be valued based upon their perceived value (ex the ~9% of industrial value attributed to PMs like gold) and potential future use.

Wild thought that not everyone perceives the value of something or believes in future use potential the same way.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27081 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:28 pm to
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you cant delete a dozen posts in 60 seconds? its what, 3 clicks for each post? i did the same thing with my original account on here; it wasnt even anything bad..i was just going through an ugly div around the 2006 timeframe and felt like ANYTHING i said could have been misconstrued so i nuked it all and started over with a new user.

Dozens, plural. Editing every post without error dozens of times per minute, minute after minute. It’s almost certainly a script.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:46 pm to
Crypto was wild the past few years with the crash and exit scams. He could have invested some in voyager, FTX, or Celsius thinking he was getting guaranteed returns and poof gone
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35850 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 4:06 pm to
You still a LINK marine baw?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 4:23 pm to
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No idea what happened to Wiki, but I'm happy with my bitcoin investment. I bought them at $13 a piece not long after they first appeared.


Posted by Chief Hinge
There and Here
Member since Sep 2018
2908 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 5:24 pm to
Dude is fine. Easily worth more than fifty million. Some of you pathetic doxers are reason enough to scrub one’s post history.

Posted by Lateralus1
Member since Mar 2024
304 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 5:27 pm to
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So he apparently went in and deleted like 5+ years worth of messages


Doubt he did it, he just paid one of the scrubbing companies to handle it. Easy when you have that kind of money.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21444 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:01 pm to
One of my regrets is not listening to him. There was once, when he first spoke of this I thought about investing, but then read all the computer crap you had to do to do it back then and said, naw. Of course, in hindsight I could have gotten a young neighbor kid to do that, but didn't.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2420 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 6:15 pm to
I am an early adopter.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 8:59 pm to
Lost quite a few soldiers but yea
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85008 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:50 pm to
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assume he sold a bit of his stake along the way. But still held on to 50% or so


Yeah probably. People always beat themselves up in these threads as if they would have bought 1,000 BTC at $3, rode it up to $20k/BTC, watched it go back to $3.4k, then let it plunk along for 3 years to get back to $20k, just to see it go on to $65k, then fall to $28k in two months, etc.

That’s not what most people do. It may have started as $6k you could afford to lose, but in a relatively short amount of time you were making and losing over $10 million in a matter of months.
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
1882 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:04 pm to
It's worth $71,000 and is extremely liquid. If you held 1,000 BTC, you could sell it in 2 seconds for $71 mil. Does not matter at all whether you think it's a ponzi or not. Market doesn't care if you or people think that. Jelly...

It has way too much momentum and world awareness now that it will never go to $0. Even if over next 10 years, it crashes to $100, it will come back. World awareness is huge for an investment with no cash flow statements behind it as the only thing it can gain value from is world awareness... as long as no stuff like Enron but that can't happen bc it's not a company.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1292 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:09 pm to
Bitcoin is an automated service you bribe others to let you partake in.

Once you realize that, and also make peace with your error in judgement, the healing can begin.
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