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re: Flying at 8 month pregnant.... would you do it/allow it?

Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20408 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:18 pm to
While citizenship isn’t an issue assuming both parents are US Citizens. (Birth of a child to two USC’s makes the kid a citizen regardless of location.). The correct OT answer is for him to take his slam piece to Europe while the wife stays home to clean the house and prep for the new kid.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59350 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:18 pm to
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bought non-refundable tickets when they were both sober


This is a weird detail
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:21 pm to
If he just kicks her in the stomach he doesn’t need to worry about a refund and she doesn’t have to worry about her drinking problem.
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
3167 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:22 pm to
1. Visit Planned Parenthood
2. Go to Europe
3. ????
4. PROFIT!!!
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:23 pm to
Can’t he just change the date and pay a date change fee and go much sooner....when his wife can still safely travel while pregnant?

Will be safer for mom/baby and much more enjoyable to the pregnant woman.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12691 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:25 pm to
Sure, she can be the DD on pub runs
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:27 pm to
That I do not know, he plans on calling tomorrow to see if he can delay the flight due to the pregnancy
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:38 pm to
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Flying at 8 month pregnant.... would you do it/allow it?


Only if the MIL was on the flight as well.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
5027 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:40 pm to
ISWYDT

No way a DR. would let her fly.
Had a friend who's wife flew when she was 4 months and had complications and spend the rest of her pregnancy 800 miles from home.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 6:43 pm to
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That I do not know, he plans on calling tomorrow to see if he can delay the flight due to the pregnancy

Non-refundable tickets CAN can be cancelled. The FULL value will still be in each PNR.

TBD per airline, but each ticket should have the following rules:
- cancel at least a couple days before flight (to be safe)
- name on ticket cannot change
- will have 12 months to book ANY new flight on the PNR
- will have to pay a change fee (TBD, but $200 to $250 each)
- a credit will be issued for the remainder, and the credit can be used for ANYONE.
- that credit will have a 12 month life before expiring

For example, say each is a $1,100 Europe flight. They have, playing it safe, 360 days to book ANY new flight. So they take one and buy a r/t to Memphis for $300, and a change fee of, say, $200. They'd have this:
- a new $200 charge
- a r/t ticket to Memphis
- an instant electronic voucher worth $700 (that anyone can use to go anywhere)

If I didn't think I would travel due to a new baby, I'd buy (and this depends on whether this airline is domestic or not) TWO $75 one-way from MSY-IAH and pay TWO change fees (one for each original) and get over $1,500 in vouchers that you can sell to a friend or family member for, surely, 70% original cost.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 7:15 pm to
They waive the change fees for medical orders not to fly.
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49482 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 7:21 pm to
I couldn’t fly (doctor said nope) to my annual work meeting last year at 33 weeks. I wouldn’t have wanted to go anywhere that far from home in the third trimester, just to be safe. I ended up having complications and had my baby at 35 weeks, and I’m 100% healthy and had no precursors for my complications. I would absolutely NOT go to Europe if pregnant (any further than 20-24 weeks max) and almost wonder how dumb the husband is to even ask if this is still an option for him. If he values his wife and marriage, he will get it changed.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 7:22 pm to
I would just have my Global Express land in Iceland or Ireland if my wife went into labor.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 7:53 pm to
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Which by the way is particularly stupid since you risk your baby not being a US citizen if you don't get the paperwork right.



What? It's actually really fricking easy.

quote:

Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock

A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock for the purposes of citizenship acquisition when the genetic and/or gestational parents are legally married to each other at the time of the child’s birth and both parents are the legal parents of the child under local law at the time and place of birth.

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be the genetic or the gestational parent and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.

Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Father –

“New” Section 309(a)
A person born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen father may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) of the INA, as made applicable by the “new” Section 309(a) of the INA provided:

A blood relationship between the person and the father is established by clear and convincing evidence;
The father had the nationality of the United States at the time of the person’s birth;
The father was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth for five years, at least two of which were after reaching the age of 14.
The father (unless deceased) has agreed in writing to provide financial support for the person until the person reaches the age of 18 years, and
While the person is under the age of 18 years --
the person is legitimated under the law of his/her residence or domicile,
the father acknowledges paternity of the person in writing under oath, or
the paternity of the person is established by adjudication of a competent court.
Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Father – “Old” Section 309(a) of the INA- A child born out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen father may acquire U.S. citizenship under the former Section 301(a)(7) of the INA as made applicable by the “old” Section 309(a) of the INA if the U.S. citizen father, prior to the child’s birth, had been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for ten years, five of which were after the age of 14, and if the paternity of the child had been established by legitimation prior to the child reaching the age of 21. The “old” Section 309(a) of the INA is applicable to individuals who were 18 on November 14, 1986 and to individuals whose paternity had been established by legitimation prior to that date. Individuals who were at least 15 on November 14, 1986, but under the age of 18, could opt to have their claim determined in accordance with the provisions of either the “old” or the “new” Section 309(a).

Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother:

A person born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 309(c) of the INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the person’s birth and if the mother was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the person’s birth. The U.S. citizen mother must be the genetic or the gestational mother and the legal parent of the child under local law at the time and place of the child’s birth to transmit U.S. citizenship.


State Department

Any legitimate government will supply adequate paperwork and I would judge the frick out of someone traveling, with a heavily pregnant wife, to a country where this shite isn't easily confirmed.

That being said, most doctors do not recommend traveling abroad that late in pregnancy.

My wife didn't tolerate four hour drives well late in her pregnancy.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64389 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 7:56 pm to
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Can’t he just change the date


You can't change the delivery date
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 8:01 pm to
LOfrickinL at any man in this thread who thinks they ‘allow’ their pregnant wives to do anything


We don’t run shite
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