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re: Fluoride in drinking water
Posted on 10/22/26 at 7:28 am to RemyLeBeau
Posted on 10/22/26 at 7:28 am to RemyLeBeau
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looks like the fluoride worked for you
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The NTP monograph concluded, with moderate confidence, that higher levels of fluoride exposure, such as drinking water containing more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter, are associated with lower IQ in children.
Average IQ has been going down steadily for a while now because smart people are having fewer kids and dumb people have tons of them.
Also the optimal level of Fluoride in drinking water is 0.7 mg per liter, so less than half of the amount found to be harmful in the study. Over 70% of water systems keep their levels between 0.6 and 0.7mg per liter.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 7:29 am to Auburn1968
Well water has no fluoride in it.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 7:43 am to LSUfan20005
Flouride occurs naturally in groundwater and people have been drinking it far longer than they have not
Posted on 10/22/26 at 7:48 am to SaltyMcKracker
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Flouride occurs naturally in groundwater and people have been drinking it far longer than they have not
People have a really warped idea of groundwater being roughly the same everywhere and it really isn't.
There is a well that JEA in Jacksonville pumps from that has water that is almost identical to Dasani chemically straight from the ground
Posted on 10/22/26 at 7:52 am to ShrimperDan
Had mine tested when it was drilled, just a bit of iron, but I have a filter on there for that.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:10 am to Night Vision
that's remarkably wrong. Much of the US west uses well water that has naturally occurring floride . Surface water, rivers, lakes, streams more typically have no floride
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:26 am to SaltyMcKracker
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Flouride occurs naturally in groundwater
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What is Fluoride?
To understand fluoride we first have to talk about fluorine.
Fluorine is an element, the most electronegative element on the periodic table which makes it extremely reactive. This means it loves electrons and like all elements it wants to become stable, to do so it has to pick up one more electron. In the process of picking up one more electron it becomes a negative ion. In other words, it now becomes fluoride (F-).
Now when fluorine the element becomes fluoride the ion, it also becomes a compound in the process. It’s these compounds that we find added into our water and toothpaste, like fluorosilicic acid and sodium fluoride.
The reason why the subject of fluoride has to be started like this is because most websites, organizations and public figures paint the picture of fluoride in a very misleading manner. They say it’s a naturally occurring substance that’s very abundant on earth. Adding that it’s found in soil, water, rocks, air, plants and animals. By painting fluoride as “natural” it makes many people believe it’s good for them.
This is misguiding in two main ways.
Even though fluorine is a naturally occurring element, that does not mean it is good for you. Not all things made by the earth were made to put in our body. For example, lead, lithium, aluminum, arsenic, mercury and radium are all naturally occurring elements on Earth but we all know how deadly they are for the human body.
Second, you don’t have fluorine added to your water and toothpaste, you have the different compounds of fluoride added. And as you will learn in the next section, none of these different compound additives occur naturally.
In fact, it’s quite unnatural.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:28 am to Auburn1968
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Personally, I prefer to have a set of teeth.
Toothpaste has plenty of Fluoride for the teeth.
So is fluoride a problem or not?
Willing to use it concentrated twice a day brushing but it is evil and bad to drink it?
This post was edited on 10/22/26 at 9:29 am
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:34 am to RandRules
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Thanks for the insight. How do you people know this sort of random stuff?
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Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:35 am to RummelTiger
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:43 am to RummelTiger
It’s why I frequent this place. Amazing what you can learn from TD
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:54 am to Tiger503
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Fluoride is poison
When you see things like this, you can immediately dismiss it.
The dose makes the poison. Its then number 1 rule of toxicology.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 9:56 am to fightin tigers
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So is fluoride a problem or not?
Willing to use it concentrated twice a day brushing but it is evil and bad to drink it?
Is it evil and bad to drink it?
Absolutely not. (Dentist here). They always say "follow the money", but the dental profession has worked hard for decades to fluoridate water supplies at the appropriate, evidence researched amounts in order to keep teeth healthier. (Without fluoride in the water I would make more money, so there goes that motive.) We're talking fluoride amounts of 1 part per 1,000,000, and that was reduced a few years 0.7 parts. Naturally occurring fluoride in well water communities leads to no decay and no health hazards but slight staining of teeth. Is fluoride unhealthy in large amounts? Yes. You know what else is? Vitamin C, spinach, tuna, water, the list goes on.
Don't believe RFK, Jr. and recent trends in pseudoscience. Don't believe that video on page 1 of this thread. Trust decades upon decades of peer reviewed scientific evidence. (Of course, the world is full of "don't trust the experts" now from people doing their own "research" on youtube and tiktok.)
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:00 am to Tampa Ray
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If you swallow more than what is used to brush your teeth then it's toxic.
You have to drink 1 Liter of water per hour for it to be toxic.
See the difference?
No. The dose still makes the poison.
An adult would have to consume 3 large tubes of toothpaste for it to become toxic.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:01 am to Auburn1968
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Toothpaste has plenty of Fluoride for the teeth.
No enough to be useful.
Look at the brits teeth. no fluoride in the water and they use toothpaste. Teeth fricked up like a football bat.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:05 am to Tiger503
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Strawman argument
No. I don't think you understand my point.
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1. a substance with an inherent property that tends to destroy life or impair health.
Cool. Water is poison.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:10 am to RandRules
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Thanks for the insight. How do you people know this sort of random stuff?
This board. There were also some articles about it when the LA Senate was proposing a bill to ban fluoride additives.
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:11 am to Cheese Grits
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Personally, I prefer to have a set of teeth.
The amount of fluoride from drinking water that hits your teeth is negligible and you'd be ok brushing your teeth.. The constant saturation of your gut with fluoride which is a poison is very detrimental.. There's a lot of data and literature on it...
Posted on 10/22/26 at 10:12 am to DarkDrifter
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The constant saturation of your gut with fluoride which is a poison is very detrimental.. There's a lot of data and literature on it...
can you share some?
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