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re: Florida's high speed train Brightline struggles, seeks rescue after $5.5 billion debt
Posted on 5/3/26 at 3:45 pm to BregmansWheelbarrow
Posted on 5/3/26 at 3:45 pm to BregmansWheelbarrow
I've never heard of this, but I haven't been to Florida since my aunt lived in Clearwater in the 90s when I was a kid, so...
Anyway, per the map in OPs tweet, I mapped Miami to Tampa drive time.
4 hrs
I then Google what the Bright line train time is for that trip....it doesbt even exist yet apparently. This train only goes to Orlando.
OK.....so I did the same comparison.
Aaaaaaand........it takes the exact same amount of time to drive yourself as it does to ride this train
Why again would I ever want to use this service?
Anyway, per the map in OPs tweet, I mapped Miami to Tampa drive time.
4 hrs
I then Google what the Bright line train time is for that trip....it doesbt even exist yet apparently. This train only goes to Orlando.
OK.....so I did the same comparison.
Aaaaaaand........it takes the exact same amount of time to drive yourself as it does to ride this train
Why again would I ever want to use this service?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 3:55 pm to nola tiger lsu
Lots of the people getting hit by it are suicides.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 3:59 pm to RelicBatches86
I love taking the kids on it when we’d go to the kids museum in Ft. Lauderdale or to a few spots in Miami. The train is beautiful, clean, and very well run.
The problem is the price is so hit or miss. It can be insanely expensive at times. I’d use it a lot more if it actually stopped at FLL or MIA.
The problem is the price is so hit or miss. It can be insanely expensive at times. I’d use it a lot more if it actually stopped at FLL or MIA.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:05 pm to UFFan
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And the train is also notorious for hitting people.
Meh, you should see the carnage caused by Amtrak in West Birmingham. There’s never a shortage of people trying to beat the train.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:06 pm to St Augustine
I see and hear the bright line daily but have never taken it. Few issues-
1. There's no station stop between West Palm and the Orlando airport so by the time youd drive down to West Palm to go to MCO, it makes zero sense. Putting in even one station in Port Saint Lucie, Stuart, Jensen, Vero, etc would probably draw all of those towns to the bright line. And if I'm driving to West Palm, I may as well keep going down the turnpike or 95 to get to Lauderdale or Miami.
2. Price- as you stated, it's hit or miss. Either super expensive or a reasonably priced ticket but at odd hours of the day.
3- Train schedule/traffic- besides the already mentioned suicides, these trains are moving through busy intersections from Miami to MCO every hour going both ways. The amount of traffic this causes during rush hour is crazy on the local roads
1. There's no station stop between West Palm and the Orlando airport so by the time youd drive down to West Palm to go to MCO, it makes zero sense. Putting in even one station in Port Saint Lucie, Stuart, Jensen, Vero, etc would probably draw all of those towns to the bright line. And if I'm driving to West Palm, I may as well keep going down the turnpike or 95 to get to Lauderdale or Miami.
2. Price- as you stated, it's hit or miss. Either super expensive or a reasonably priced ticket but at odd hours of the day.
3- Train schedule/traffic- besides the already mentioned suicides, these trains are moving through busy intersections from Miami to MCO every hour going both ways. The amount of traffic this causes during rush hour is crazy on the local roads
Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:28 pm to TideSaint
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When did this open?
I lived in Tampa from 2007 to 2009
They began talking about it in 2012. Then gov. Rick Scott was told by the RNC to tell Obama no for the funds to build it. He said no and they sent the money to CA. They just stole it and have built no track. A big slowdown was Disney wanted say-so on every stop, so they could cut Universal out of the loop. They have been discussing since 2013 how to get the section from Orlando to Tampa built.
I believe this same company is getting the BR loop done.
ETA: Hey, DVQ
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:34 pm to St Augustine
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The problem is the price is so hit or miss. It can be insanely expensive at times.
Depending on the price of gas, i was spending $15-30, roundtrip, to drive to Tampa and Orlando. The talk of the train excited me. They were taking about $4 each way. The longer it didn't get started on construction, the more expensive the tickets got. I stopped looking when it jumped from $4 to $28, then $35.
Please do not take any of my tax dollars to pay these inept buffoons.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:35 pm to nola tiger lsu
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hitting people
Really people hitting it by being stupid
Stealth trains.
Zero sympathy for people that get hit by trains.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:39 pm to Hangit
Im not sure why its a requirement for public transit or healthcare to be for profit businesses. They are services for citizens that could reasonably be covered by the trillions of dollars we pay in taxes if those in charge cared about us rather than lining their own pockets and dropping bombs in the middle east. We've spent $25 billion in the past 2 months in Iran and got nothing in return.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 4:53 pm to sgallo3
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Im not sure why its a requirement for public transit or healthcare to be for profit businesses
Oh, idk. maybe so we allocate resources efficiently, ultimately saving the most lives and money.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:00 pm to Tvilletiger
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They probably owe 2 billion in wrongful deaths also.
They do not pay when there is an accident. It is always the fault of the person who willingly got in the way of the train.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:01 pm to RelicBatches86
There’s no way the people that live in Florida could handle something that goes 200 miles an hour
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:02 pm to RelicBatches86
Brightline missed a major opportunity by not negotiating direct stops from MCO to Disney, Universal, and Port Canaveral. With connections to those high-demand destinations, they could likely reduce operating costs per passenger while driving significantly higher ticket sales through sheer volume.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:04 pm to TigerAllNightLong
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Oh, idk. maybe so we allocate resources efficiently, ultimately saving the most lives and money.
I'm all for this if we reduce taxes. But that isn't happening, instead we pay a shitton in taxes and most of it is wasted or laundered.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:04 pm to UFFan
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Oh, people are stupid, but the fact that people are stupid is supposed to be taken into account when building the train. And Brightline has hit more stupid people than any other train in America.
I mean, it's the state that spawned the Florida Man meme.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:07 pm to HarrisonTown
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I hope they can figure it out
Brightline is a great ride, and can be a really convenient option to move around South Florida
Don't see how anyone doesn't recognize this, at least to some extent. But that's the US. People laugh even at similar times to driving, but if it's similar times to driving, then it's logical to say you might want to take the train a time or two, depending on money. Before opening the link and reading about it, I assumed it was a very short distance covered and had horribly long travel times. Sounds like a decent way to maybe go to Miami for the day/evening and come back without driving/getting a hotel. Guess that's not desirable.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:15 pm to deltadummy
California will figure out how to make it successful… 
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:21 pm to deltadummy
Unless you live in Tokyo, it doesn’t make sense. All trains have stops within walking distance of a major shopping district. So you take a train from Tampa to Miami, then what? Rent a car or catch a bus? Maybe take a cab or Uber to your destination.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:29 pm to Tvilletiger
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They run over people almost weekly in Florida. It’s a legit meme here.
No people are just retarded and stop on the middle of the tracks. I see it almost daily by the tracks near my house. Even with cops sitting there watching, they still do it.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 5:58 pm to UKWildcats
Didn’t they build their own tracks?
I don’t see how a railway can be popular enough to pay for this.
I don’t see how a railway can be popular enough to pay for this.
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