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re: Florida teen arrested and charged with murder for killing and chopping up a sex offender
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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time necessary to demonstrate x
Wouldn’t this be a major part of paying your debt to society if the payment involves time served?
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:51 am to jnethe1
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Your original response to me stated that the sexual predator that was killed even though he’d already paid his debt to society.
Let's repost my actual comment to avoid your editorializing
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It appears the person he killed already served his time (by finding him via the registry). If he wanted to engage in vigilante justice, targeting someone who hadn't been prosecuted would have been the way to go (not that it wouldn't have similar legal consequences). He targeted someone who already paid their debt to society and, from the article, had no specific information that the sex offender was relapsing or engaging in new criminal activity.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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Your original response to me stated that the sexual predator that was killed even though he’d already paid his debt to society.
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Let's repost my actual comment to avoid your editorializing
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It appears the person he killed already served his time (by finding him via the registry). If he wanted to engage in vigilante justice, targeting someone who hadn't been prosecuted would have been the way to go (not that it wouldn't have similar legal consequences). He targeted someone who already paid their debt to society and, from the article, had no specific information that the sex offender was relapsing or engaging in new criminal activity.
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He targeted someone who already paid their debt to society
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
At the risk of defending SlowFlowOweO, in Florida there are two classifications of sex convicts: sexual offenders and sexual predators. Offenders are the lesser charges and predators' crimes usually involve violence or the infliction of harm. Offenders could be something as low grade as the stereotypical flasher. If you're going to go full Frank Castle on someone you ought to print out a list of sexual predators.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:54 am to jnethe1
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Wouldn’t this be a major part of paying your debt to society if the payment involves time served?
I stated a fact (that he had served his time) without your editorializing and additions.
Do you think a crazy lib would have been justified attacking Trump for lenient sentencing after his 34 felony convictions in New York?
I don't, because Trump paid his debt to society and I see the issues justifying vigilante justice (2 examples of which I posted ITT and you continue to ignore, I might add).
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:54 am to SoFla Tideroller
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If you're going to go full Frank Castle on someone you ought to print out a list of sexual predators.
This is also a good point.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:58 am to Bourre
quote:plot twist. He just wanted to be tossed in prison so he could really cook!
Florida teen arrested and charged with murder
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:01 am to stout
Paramount better make room on their streaming servers looks like they’ve got a new Dexter spinoff on their hands.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
You keep saying sex offenders get “really long sentences” and that Daniel had already “paid his debt to society.” Let’s stop dodging and talk facts about this case.
In 2018, 19-year-old Colie Lee Daniel took a 12-year-old boy behind a building, performed oral sex on him while the kid was crying and trying to get away, physically restrained him so he couldn’t escape, confessed on tape (“I sucked his dick”), and got 36 days in jail — time served — plus probation.
Thirty-six days. For molesting a child.
That’s not “paying a debt.” That’s a slap on the wrist. The registry exists precisely because society doesn’t trust these people afterward. When the system hands out sentences like that over and over, people lose all faith in it. That frustration is exactly why this kid snapped and targeted a registered offender.
No, random citizens shouldn’t be playing judge, jury, and executioner — I never said they should. But pretending 36 days for what Daniel did is some kind of real justice is ridiculous, and it’s exactly why so many people are fed up.
So tell me: if it was your 12-year-old who got molested like that, would you still be calling 36 days “paying his debt”? Be honest instead of calling everyone “melty” for pointing it out.
In 2018, 19-year-old Colie Lee Daniel took a 12-year-old boy behind a building, performed oral sex on him while the kid was crying and trying to get away, physically restrained him so he couldn’t escape, confessed on tape (“I sucked his dick”), and got 36 days in jail — time served — plus probation.
Thirty-six days. For molesting a child.
That’s not “paying a debt.” That’s a slap on the wrist. The registry exists precisely because society doesn’t trust these people afterward. When the system hands out sentences like that over and over, people lose all faith in it. That frustration is exactly why this kid snapped and targeted a registered offender.
No, random citizens shouldn’t be playing judge, jury, and executioner — I never said they should. But pretending 36 days for what Daniel did is some kind of real justice is ridiculous, and it’s exactly why so many people are fed up.
So tell me: if it was your 12-year-old who got molested like that, would you still be calling 36 days “paying his debt”? Be honest instead of calling everyone “melty” for pointing it out.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:14 am to jnethe1
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Let’s stop dodging and talk facts about this case.
I made no comment about his specific sentencing. You're engaging in dishonesty, as has already been pointed out.
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So tell me: if it was your 12-year-old who got molested like that, would you still be calling 36 days “paying his debt”? Be honest instead of calling everyone “melty” for pointing it out.
All you have is appeals to emotion.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
You’re dodging again.
Earlier in this thread you said sex offenses get “really long sentences” and that Daniel had already “paid his debt to society.”
I never claimed you commented on his specific 36-day sentence. I pointed out that your general claim doesn’t hold up when you look at this case — the exact one we’re talking about. Daniel molested a 12-year-old boy (oral sex while the kid cried and tried to get away, physical restraint, confession on tape) and received 36 days time served + probation.
That’s the reality that leaves people with zero faith in the system. The registry exists because light sentences like this don’t restore trust.
The teenager didn’t pick a random person; he printed a list of registered sex offenders and targeted Daniel for his record. No one is arguing that citizens should be out there beating people with bats and chopping up bodies. But calling the very real, justified outrage over sentences like Daniel’s “appeals to emotion” is just a way to avoid the substance.
If pointing out that 36 days for molesting a child is a slap on the wrist is “emotion,” then fine. Most people here understand why that frustration boils over.
Your move: address the actual sentence in this case instead of nitpicking quotes and crying “dishonesty.”
Earlier in this thread you said sex offenses get “really long sentences” and that Daniel had already “paid his debt to society.”
I never claimed you commented on his specific 36-day sentence. I pointed out that your general claim doesn’t hold up when you look at this case — the exact one we’re talking about. Daniel molested a 12-year-old boy (oral sex while the kid cried and tried to get away, physical restraint, confession on tape) and received 36 days time served + probation.
That’s the reality that leaves people with zero faith in the system. The registry exists because light sentences like this don’t restore trust.
The teenager didn’t pick a random person; he printed a list of registered sex offenders and targeted Daniel for his record. No one is arguing that citizens should be out there beating people with bats and chopping up bodies. But calling the very real, justified outrage over sentences like Daniel’s “appeals to emotion” is just a way to avoid the substance.
If pointing out that 36 days for molesting a child is a slap on the wrist is “emotion,” then fine. Most people here understand why that frustration boils over.
Your move: address the actual sentence in this case instead of nitpicking quotes and crying “dishonesty.”
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
Pedo's are sick in the head no doubt, most are not going to stop after one offense. I saw a interview with a pedo that he wanted to be locked up for life , because he said if he were out he would definitely do it again because he couldn't stop himself.
Personally I think they are spiritual possessed but that's just my opinion.
But you can't go around killing people who are convicted sex offender's, I have friend who dated a girl from when he was 15 to age 17 ,she was 13 when they met and was 15 when she got pregnant. Her parents were ok with them dating he said they fooled around twice right before she got pregnant. He was a good guy and not a pedo he loved this girl a lot . Her parents found out she got pregnant and pushed statutory rape on him and since he was 2 years older than her and he was over 16 and she was under 16 he got labeled a child rapists. He has to register as a sex offender the rest of his life .
That was thirty years ago and he said he feels like he's a criminal and people think he's a pedo kid rapping monster. The guy is salt of the earth and would give you the shirt off his back. So I don't always assume that ever convicted person is guilty. That being said most are , but you can't go around killing people who are. I could understand it more if the 12 year old was his brother or sister.
Personally I think they are spiritual possessed but that's just my opinion.
But you can't go around killing people who are convicted sex offender's, I have friend who dated a girl from when he was 15 to age 17 ,she was 13 when they met and was 15 when she got pregnant. Her parents were ok with them dating he said they fooled around twice right before she got pregnant. He was a good guy and not a pedo he loved this girl a lot . Her parents found out she got pregnant and pushed statutory rape on him and since he was 2 years older than her and he was over 16 and she was under 16 he got labeled a child rapists. He has to register as a sex offender the rest of his life .
That was thirty years ago and he said he feels like he's a criminal and people think he's a pedo kid rapping monster. The guy is salt of the earth and would give you the shirt off his back. So I don't always assume that ever convicted person is guilty. That being said most are , but you can't go around killing people who are. I could understand it more if the 12 year old was his brother or sister.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:38 am to GeauxZone90
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The modern day Dexter
Come on man, Dexter is only 20 years old. I think pre-modernity spans a little further back than that.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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He targeted someone who already paid their debt to society
Depends on the offense. Did he molest a child or slap some woman on the arse or get caught pissing in public?
If he molested a child, that debt is never paid and he will very likely reoffend.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 9:46 am
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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He targeted someone who already paid their debt to society
Look at you knighting for pedos.
Perhaps we SHOULD do what you suggested and arm illegals.
What are your rules? If the illegal alien hunts down the predator, then they get citizenship?
This post was edited on 4/5/26 at 8:01 am
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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ritualistic, terrorism, etc.
Dismembering a body seems pretty ritualistic to me
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:57 am to stout
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:59 am to stout
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She said Jones told her he killed Daniel "because he was a s*x offender ... and he wanted to kill him." The girlfriend says she doesn't know how her boyfriend and Daniel met, but says he "had printed a list of nearby s*x offenders."
Sounds like a budding serial killer who justified his action by seeing himself as a vigilante.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:25 am to stout
28-year-old Colie Lee Daniel, was a convicted sex offender. When Daniel was 19, he performed oral sex on a child between the ages of 13 and 16. The child was the brother of Daniel's best friend, who witnessed the incident and told police. So far as we can tell, Daniel and Jones had no connection other than living somewhat close to one another.
He got 5 years of probation. That's not like he got an actual sentence for his crime.
He got 5 years of probation. That's not like he got an actual sentence for his crime.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
There’s something seriously wrong with you.
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