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re: Florida sheriff tells it like it is. “Throw a brick and we will kill you graveyard dead”
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:59 pm to tigerfan 64
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:59 pm to tigerfan 64
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Do you really think even 1 single Trump admin deportee has not already been through the criminal court system and immigration court, infront of a judge with a public defender?
Many of them had due process during DJT1 and the Biden admin with valid deportion orders.
I have no idea, but that wasn’t the question. The question was why anyone accused of being here illegally deserved a legal proceeding at all.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:09 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Do you, right now, have a passport or birth certificate on you?
If the answer is no, you're making my point pretty well.
Real ID would prove person was in country legally at the time it was issued (citizen, green card, or legal temporary status). The Real ID certification is valid only as long as person is legally in the US. Your question wasn’t to me, but I like many others do carry that around almost everywhere.
It’s really irrelevant for most of the ones being rounded up. They have been known and in some cases told to leave already but never enforced. Others deported and crossed back over. We even have DNA or fingerprints on many of them and a record on when Biden let them in or incorrectly granted them temporary protections. Arrest records as well. Not showing up for court cases or losing amnesty cases creates records as well. They have also been working on agreements for home countries to take them back, so checks in place as well to find out where they are from.
These aren’t just random traffic stops who are immediately shipped to El Salvador when the person doesn’t have their DL on them.
Regardless of requiring due process the due process of an illegal isn’t the same as due process required for a citizen. Too many people including district court judges think they must be allowed to go through entire process and exhaust all appeals taking years before removals like a citizen being convicted of a crime. There are separate courts and process for this set in law by Congress which is why administration keeps saying many of the judges are acting outside of their jurisdiction on top of being wrong.
Boasberg had another order stayed by court of appeals today.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:12 pm to Cosmo
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SFP will be here soon to tell you
SFP thinks they should get a 30 year appellate process too
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:20 pm to tigerfan 64
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If the asylum seekers don't want to be deported, they should hustle down to the nearest ICE center and make sure their residency / citizenship application is current and active.
Most of the 100% fake asylum cases passing through multiple countries before getting to our border to claim asylum don’t often even show up to hearing. They get in and disappear.
1st Trump had finally stopped that crap of passing through multiple countries to wait and claim asylum at our border and won at the Supremes, but Biden started allowing it again on day 1.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:27 pm to Scruffy
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I do not ascribe to the “if one person is wrongfully convicted” mantra.
What???… not convicting the innocent takes precedence over convicting the guilty …
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:02 pm to Scruffy
Its like the white women question,, you'll never get pics, or an answer.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:08 pm to ATrillionaire
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Just saying sometimes a person's actions are largely ignored until the perfect moment for the perfect whataboutism.
i have no idea what you are trying to imply and i’m not sure you do either. it’s just a lot of buzzwords that lead to nothing substantial.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:14 pm to Scruffy
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This has been argued multiple times. How many US citizens have been deported? People keep bringing up that that is the biggest concern. I need to know how many American citizens have been deported.
The whole point of flooding this country with illegals was to get new voters by playing to retarded people like him and overwhelming the system so people like him would demand a 30 year long trial and appellate process.
We don’t have the resources to deal with this level of criminality so they use that as a bargaining chip to bring in more blanket amnesty. I say bring 500 of them in a room at a time, bang the gavel, and get them on a bus.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:15 pm to travelgamer
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Can someone explain to me why someone that is in the country illegally deserves US legal hearings?
Which illegals? Farm workers? Big booty latinas? Rioters/foreign flag wavers?

Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:21 pm to HogBalls
The way it should be under the circumstances.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:22 pm to Jim Rockford
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People are quick to give up their liberties when they think the other guy is the only one that will be affected
Truth…
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:25 pm to DesScorp
quote:Bear Arms - If they are legally admitted, yes, they can purchase/possess a firearm even when not a citizen.
So anyone that slips across the border can bear arms and vote?
Vote - No, the 26th amendment limits that to citizens.
The right to due process, legal representation, bail, speedy trial, etc., apply to persons, not citizens, within states. That's why the terrorists went to Guantanamo and not federal court in New York or Richmond.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:26 pm to lepdagod
quote:If 1 person out of 10000 is wrongly convicted, I can live with that.
What???… not convicting the innocent takes precedence over convicting the guilty …
The idea that a single instance ruins a system is just moronic, IMO.
I am willing to sacrifice a single individual for the betterment of the whole.
I am not sorry about that either.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:46 pm to TooFyeToFly
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Can someone explain to me why someone that is in the country illegally deserves US legal hearings?
Literally the Constitution
Not a very compelling argument. Many experts on the other side us the same argument to support their belief.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:52 pm to travelgamer
Yes.
As a society, we need to establish the basic facts that someone is not a citizen and is not here legally. We also need to address the international laws regarding asylum which we adopted. The process was streamlined by Bill CLINTON many years ago. This expectation that we can clog the district courts with fabricated issues needs to be curtailed. Congress has the job for assigning the duty and process of immigration deportation. They need to clean this up.
As a society, we need to establish the basic facts that someone is not a citizen and is not here legally. We also need to address the international laws regarding asylum which we adopted. The process was streamlined by Bill CLINTON many years ago. This expectation that we can clog the district courts with fabricated issues needs to be curtailed. Congress has the job for assigning the duty and process of immigration deportation. They need to clean this up.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:01 pm to Scruffy
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If 1 person out of 10000 is wrongly convicted, I can live with that.
I can’t .., those are terrible terms considering this a person life… what if you or someone close to you the “1”
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:03 pm to lepdagod
Utopia isn't, sometimes life sucks, and then you die.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:12 pm to lepdagod
quote:They aren’t.
I can’t .., those are terrible terms considering this a person life… what if you or someone close to you the “1”
If the individual was someone close to me, I expect that I, personally, would fight for them.
I would expect no one else to though.
You are willing to sacrifice thousands for a single individual you do not know?
I’m sorry, I cannot agree to that.
A singular individual is important to themselves and their immediate contacts.
Even our “individualistic” society sacrifices individuals all the time to maintain the social structure we have created.
We sacrifice soldiers without a second thought.
You are willing to sacrifice the system for a singular individual, at least on here.
If forced to choose between maintaining a working social system and a singular individual you do not know, the vast majority of non-insane individuals would choose the former.
Stop lying to yourself to maintain a barely solid facade of moral righteousness.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 10:14 pm
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