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re: Florida sheriff tells it like it is. “Throw a brick and we will kill you graveyard dead”

Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11963 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:59 pm to
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Do you really think even 1 single Trump admin deportee has not already been through the criminal court system and immigration court, infront of a judge with a public defender?
Many of them had due process during DJT1 and the Biden admin with valid deportion orders.

I have no idea, but that wasn’t the question. The question was why anyone accused of being here illegally deserved a legal proceeding at all.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
4380 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:01 pm to
Upvoted
Love it

F em
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8349 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:09 pm to
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Do you, right now, have a passport or birth certificate on you?

If the answer is no, you're making my point pretty well.


Real ID would prove person was in country legally at the time it was issued (citizen, green card, or legal temporary status). The Real ID certification is valid only as long as person is legally in the US. Your question wasn’t to me, but I like many others do carry that around almost everywhere.

It’s really irrelevant for most of the ones being rounded up. They have been known and in some cases told to leave already but never enforced. Others deported and crossed back over. We even have DNA or fingerprints on many of them and a record on when Biden let them in or incorrectly granted them temporary protections. Arrest records as well. Not showing up for court cases or losing amnesty cases creates records as well. They have also been working on agreements for home countries to take them back, so checks in place as well to find out where they are from.

These aren’t just random traffic stops who are immediately shipped to El Salvador when the person doesn’t have their DL on them.

Regardless of requiring due process the due process of an illegal isn’t the same as due process required for a citizen. Too many people including district court judges think they must be allowed to go through entire process and exhaust all appeals taking years before removals like a citizen being convicted of a crime. There are separate courts and process for this set in law by Congress which is why administration keeps saying many of the judges are acting outside of their jurisdiction on top of being wrong.

Boasberg had another order stayed by court of appeals today.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137124 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:12 pm to
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SFP will be here soon to tell you

SFP thinks they should get a 30 year appellate process too
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8349 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:20 pm to
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If the asylum seekers don't want to be deported, they should hustle down to the nearest ICE center and make sure their residency / citizenship application is current and active.


Most of the 100% fake asylum cases passing through multiple countries before getting to our border to claim asylum don’t often even show up to hearing. They get in and disappear.

1st Trump had finally stopped that crap of passing through multiple countries to wait and claim asylum at our border and won at the Supremes, but Biden started allowing it again on day 1.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4487 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:27 pm to
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I do not ascribe to the “if one person is wrongfully convicted” mantra.


What???… not convicting the innocent takes precedence over convicting the guilty …
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34968 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:02 pm to
Its like the white women question,, you'll never get pics, or an answer.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
70120 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:08 pm to
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Just saying sometimes a person's actions are largely ignored until the perfect moment for the perfect whataboutism.


i have no idea what you are trying to imply and i’m not sure you do either. it’s just a lot of buzzwords that lead to nothing substantial.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137124 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:14 pm to
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This has been argued multiple times. How many US citizens have been deported? People keep bringing up that that is the biggest concern. I need to know how many American citizens have been deported.

The whole point of flooding this country with illegals was to get new voters by playing to retarded people like him and overwhelming the system so people like him would demand a 30 year long trial and appellate process.

We don’t have the resources to deal with this level of criminality so they use that as a bargaining chip to bring in more blanket amnesty. I say bring 500 of them in a room at a time, bang the gavel, and get them on a bus.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
503 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Can someone explain to me why someone that is in the country illegally deserves US legal hearings?


Which illegals? Farm workers? Big booty latinas? Rioters/foreign flag wavers?







Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
503 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:16 pm to
Graveyard dead?



Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
214074 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:21 pm to
The way it should be under the circumstances.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58747 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:22 pm to
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People are quick to give up their liberties when they think the other guy is the only one that will be affected


Truth…
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16013 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:25 pm to
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So anyone that slips across the border can bear arms and vote?
Bear Arms - If they are legally admitted, yes, they can purchase/possess a firearm even when not a citizen.
Vote - No, the 26th amendment limits that to citizens.

The right to due process, legal representation, bail, speedy trial, etc., apply to persons, not citizens, within states. That's why the terrorists went to Guantanamo and not federal court in New York or Richmond.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75192 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:26 pm to
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What???… not convicting the innocent takes precedence over convicting the guilty …
If 1 person out of 10000 is wrongly convicted, I can live with that.

The idea that a single instance ruins a system is just moronic, IMO.

I am willing to sacrifice a single individual for the betterment of the whole.

I am not sorry about that either.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7205 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:46 pm to
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Can someone explain to me why someone that is in the country illegally deserves US legal hearings?


Literally the Constitution

Not a very compelling argument. Many experts on the other side us the same argument to support their belief.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
1034 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:52 pm to
Yes.
As a society, we need to establish the basic facts that someone is not a citizen and is not here legally. We also need to address the international laws regarding asylum which we adopted. The process was streamlined by Bill CLINTON many years ago. This expectation that we can clog the district courts with fabricated issues needs to be curtailed. Congress has the job for assigning the duty and process of immigration deportation. They need to clean this up.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4487 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:01 pm to
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If 1 person out of 10000 is wrongly convicted, I can live with that.


I can’t .., those are terrible terms considering this a person life… what if you or someone close to you the “1”
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35133 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:03 pm to
Utopia isn't, sometimes life sucks, and then you die.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75192 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:12 pm to
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I can’t .., those are terrible terms considering this a person life… what if you or someone close to you the “1”
They aren’t.

If the individual was someone close to me, I expect that I, personally, would fight for them.

I would expect no one else to though.

You are willing to sacrifice thousands for a single individual you do not know?

I’m sorry, I cannot agree to that.

A singular individual is important to themselves and their immediate contacts.

Even our “individualistic” society sacrifices individuals all the time to maintain the social structure we have created.

We sacrifice soldiers without a second thought.

You are willing to sacrifice the system for a singular individual, at least on here.

If forced to choose between maintaining a working social system and a singular individual you do not know, the vast majority of non-insane individuals would choose the former.

Stop lying to yourself to maintain a barely solid facade of moral righteousness.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 10:14 pm
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