re: Florida hospital reports 'multiple stabbing victims,' Cops say suspect in custody

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Who should NOT have them.

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convicted felons, people deemed (by a panel of psychologist/psychiatrist) to have mental defect, sketchy backgrounds checks,

yes, if i had a voice, i would want a mental evaluation commenced before selling high capacity weapons... i don't think that's that irrational, given what we've been able to get out of most of the mass shooters... most have had mental issues in their past, so trying to weed these people out should be a step that is included...

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but your anecdotal evidence for argument is a little skewed, no?

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Skewed by logic, whereas yours is skewed by emotion.

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it's pretty easy to have less guns deaths when there are less gun owners/users than those that use a car, smoke, drink, eat sugar, et

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Banning vehicles that exceed 25 mph would all but end vehicle deaths. Banning hfcs would do wonders for curtailing obesity. Banning tobacco would end tobacco deaths. Banning alcohol.

It’s about saving lives I thought.... no one said saving lives is easy.

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Millions of gun owners out there and they aren't doing bad things.

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absolutely... but at the same time, you are sort of conflating the issue... i am specifically speaking about semi automatic weapons and stuff that usually gets the blame in mass shooting attacks... and you and i know full well, not all those "millions" of gun owners have something like that... that's a much smaller number... but at any rate, i don't think that a few more steps in the process, to essentially cut down, even further, the chance of a powerful/deadly weapon ending up in the wrong hands is not that much to ask... even most gun owners support that argument...

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convicted felons,

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Already can’t have them. How’s that working?

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people deemed (by a panel of psychologist/psychiatrist) to have mental defect,

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This is where it’s going to get really fun for me, and really embarrassing for you.

What mental issues would qualify?

Do you see any chance of this being abused?

Does the group with all the power have an inherent bias when it comes to guns?

Appeals process?

How long is the ban good for?

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, sketchy backgrounds checks,

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Such as?

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i just don't want some cracked out, mentally unstable person to be able to own a very deadly weapon, capable of murdering a mass amount of people...

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Who decides that a person is mentally defective? Has a sketchy background?

Can you answer that?

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Already can’t have them. How’s that working?

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which is why i actually LEAD with saying enforcing the laws we already have...

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This is where it’s going to get really fun for me, and really embarrassing for you.

What mental issues would qualify?

Do you see any chance of this being abused?

Does the group with all the power have an inherent bias when it comes to guns?

Appeals process?

How long is the ban good for?

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obviously, neither you or i have all the exactly right answers to this problem, but do you not think this issue is something worthy of at least trying to solve? i don't have all the answers bro... and like i said, apparently neither do you... but to just say well, frick it, we'll just leave it as is and hope for the best, where at this point we have evidence that can at least point us in the right directions to initiating starting to try to fix it is ridiculous...

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Who decides that a person is mentally defective? Has a sketchy background?

Can you answer that?

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well, the background check would obviously be like something you see for a job.... typical background check... if something pops up there, do a little further digging with an enhanced check...

just keep trying figure out if the individual can or cannot be trusted with a high power weapon... if not, they can still own a gun, just not a semi automatic... why is that such a terrible thing?

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which is why i actually LEAD with saying enforcing the laws we already have...

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The laws we have are unenforceable on criminals... you know why? Bc criminals..... wait for it......

Break
The
Law

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obviously, neither you or i have all the exactly right answers to this problem,

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Awwww you’re seriously gonna take the pussy way out? I really wanted to have fun playing with my food.

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but do you not think this issue is something worthy of at least trying to solve?

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Ahhh the tried and true emotional ploy. Pathetic.

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i don't have all the answers bro... and like i said, apparently neither do you...

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I absolutely have the answer.

The world sucks. The world isn’t fair. Bad things happen to good people. The only person responsible for your safety is yourself.

You want to be able to take people’s right to self defense away. I don’t.

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but to just say well, frick it, we'll just leave it as is and hope for the best, where at this point we have evidence that can at least point us in the right directions to initiating starting to try to fix it is ridiculous...

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Emotion emotion emotion emotion.

Come back and talk when your balls drop and you unclench your pearls. Emotional thinking isn’t the way to go through life, boy.

Logic over emotion. Always.

There is a problem that can not be solved and it is called Human Evil. Call it abnormal human psychology if you want, call it violent sociopathy, whatever . The point is that it is omnipresent and it’s part of the deal. There are people among us who want to shoot you, stab you, devour your innards, burn you alive , crash your plane, ad infinitum. It is the human condition.

Given that, I would choose to live in a free society where risk is heightened then a Coercive State where the government holds all the power and is the instrument of terror. The State in just a handful of countries killed over 100,000,000 in the last century. I will take my chances with freedom and the risk that comes with freedom.