re: Florida hospital reports 'multiple stabbing victims,' Cops say suspect in custody

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We would lose over half of the guns on the market.

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again, i'm not advocating losing ANY guns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for frick's sake, can we at least start there? i'm not for banning ANY gun, regardless of make, capability, etc.... hell, if society deems you responsible enough for a fricking grenade launcher, then by all means, go get yourself a grenade launcher...

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All firearms can be dangerous. Every single one.

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i absolutely agree... some more than others, obviously.... and with that increased danger, i think that there should be increased responsibility and restraint... if you pass all the checks, which most people would, as most gunowners are lawful, responsible people, at least all the ones i know are, then you wouldn't have the slightest trouble getting whichever firearm you want...

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i'm saying ban those deemed to be too dangerous or irresponsible from those weapons, if need be... big difference...

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And when these people you deem too dangerous or irresponsible start carrying out these attacks with bombs, vehicles, etc? Then what is your answer?

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What mental illnesses?
What’s the appeals process?
How long?
Is there an inherit bias against or for guns in the group in power?
Is this going to be abused?

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again, i don't have all the answers but it doesn't mean that rational discussion from BOTH sides of the argument won't produce some very good ones....

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again, i don't have all the answers but it doesn't mean that rational discussion from BOTH sides of the argument won't produce some very good ones....

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I’m trying to have a rational discussion. You, on the other hand, refuse to dive into the minutiae with me. They are simple and quite open ended questions. I’m asking for your answer to them. You can ask me questions. I’ll gladly answer them.

But so far, you’ve been a coward and have refused to even discuss the minutiae. You’ve clammed up and resorted back to emotion and “if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about”.

You’re right. I have nothing to worry about. I still want to dive into the minutiae with you so you can be awakened to see the flaws in your proposition.

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dunno

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Because you're unwilling address the actual problem.

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it's such a shitty hypothetical, i really don't know what you want me to say... you have taken such a hyperbolic stance on the issue that you have essentially poisoned the well to any sort of realistic discussion now....

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Bombs and vehicles have not been used in mass casualty events before?

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but what we are not doing is enforcing the laws we currently have

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You might get more people to agree with you if you'd stop right here.

Forget universal background checks- that is a myth. That will only serve to force new rules on the people who are NOT the problem.
We already have a background check- and every single day people who cannot legally buy or own a gun get turned away by the FBI. This is after lying on a federal document- a federal crime. They aren't getting arrested for it. And so, they end up getting an illegal weapon. No way to stop that as long as they are roaming free. Period.

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Hell, I'm treated for depression. What are they going to do with me?

Never once have I been a danger to the public.

I have a CC.

I am a veteran (infantry no less), a 25 yr. vol. fireman and a 32 yr. industrial fireman trained in everything possible (EMT, Haz Mat, high rise rescue).

What is the government going to do with me?

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no major red flags, imo... any PTSD, or frequent suicidal ideation?

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I am a veteran (infantry no less),

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oh, and sorry, i should have said this earlier... thank you for your service, sir....