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Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25244 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:12 am to
Thank God. I need a sweaty guy with a 10th grade education to tell me why undercoating is important.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15610 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:12 am to
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think about all of the people you deal with and see working in a dealership when you buy a car. They would virtually all be out of a job if the other manufacturers went to the Tesla method.


People on here blow their load over the thought of robots replacing fast food workers and AI replacing journalists/writers. But keeping industry protections to keep people employed at car dealerships is great. If dealerships truly provide a service and are needed then they will stay in business, let the market decide right?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25244 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:20 am to
People that work at fast food restaurants are actually providing an important service. They are way more valuable to society than car salesmen.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79272 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:23 am to
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It's multifold. The dealerships make a profit selling cars. they clearly want to protect that interest. Additionally, think about all of the people you deal with and see working in a dealership when you buy a car. They would virtually all be out of a job if the other manufacturers went to the Tesla method.


This is entirely about protecting the power structure dealers and manufacturers have structured over lo this many years. The dealers have put a lot of time, energy, and resources building their infrastructure and want stability in a rapidly changing world.

It's not about the poor working man. There will still be people selling and fixing cars if it went to a direct to consumer model.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57905 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:25 am to
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Republicans are just as corrupt and full of shite as democrats. Maybe one day some of you will wake up.


Preach
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
9567 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:26 am to
Need less government but it's not going that way with interference in our lives and assuming we can't make our informed decisions. If the decisions don't work out, one still learns something from it.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:28 am to
Jesus. That’s fricked up and embarrassingly shameless for republicans.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2289 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:46 am to
HB 637

You damn idiots will believe anything. The bill changes a % from 40 to 30. Actually doing the opposite of what the OP states. Since EVs don't have dealerships to the 30% they are exempt.
The bill reduces the dealership %, making it easier to have direct to consumer.
OP is fake news.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34794 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:48 am to
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you know damn well he will go out of his way to punish people and companies that disagree with him. He is vindictive as hell.



Kinda like how Obama used the IRS to target conservatives
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13406 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:51 am to
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You damn idiots will believe anything. The bill changes a % from 40 to 30. Actually doing the opposite of what the OP states. Since EVs don't have dealerships to the 30% they are exempt.
The bill reduces the dealership %, making it easier to have direct to consumer.
OP is fake news.


You think those gobbling Trump cock care about facts?
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2289 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:55 am to
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You think those gobbling Trump cock care about facts?


I will be voting Trump 2024. Hopefully Ron in 2028!
Both of these guys will use government against Dems. I hate that that is what needs to be done, but Thomas Massie/ Rand Paul approach just slows down the left, we need to stop it.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7294 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:06 am to
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Florida bans direct to consumer car sales


Swamp Index:
Pro dealership lobby
Anti-manufacturer
Very Anti-consumer
Message to regular folks - FU
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1338 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:09 am to
So the fact that Tesla is the only manufacturer that has the infrastructure to do this and doesn't have the huge dealerships that would get annihilated again, like they did during all of the mergers or brands, like pontiac/oldsmobile, being consolidated, makes this simply a law done for political favors.
This is not an executive order but instead voted on by the legislature and presented to DeSantis as a bill and he signed it.
Of course this is a solid compromise to protect the established dealerships for other brands but allow sales of one of the most popular cars in the world, Tesla Model 3. Highly unlikely other startups will be anywhere close to being able to do direct to consumer anytime soon, and the Tesla charging system network has been adapted by Ford and GM, so you need to ensure Tesla has the ability to stay solvent to support the charging infrastructure that they bought and paid for, so they have earned some exceptions. Did Rivian build a charging station network adapted by the 2 largest US manufacturers?
This is of course a reasonable compromise of a law and makes a lot of logical sense, but gives the chance to criticize by those in fear of DeSantis. It's intelligent legislation, which is probably too hard to recognize because it hasn't happened at the federal level in years.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:28 am to
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Free Market Ron? The true conservative.


Conservatives all across the country have been voting for and protecting dealer laws. I thought we were all about small government!
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:32 am to
quote:

The bill changes a % from 40 to 30. Actually doing the opposite of what the OP states. Since EVs don't have dealerships to the 30% they are exempt.
The bill reduces the dealership %, making it easier to have direct to consumer.
OP is fake news.



Why are they tweaking it instead of just letting companies sell direct if they want to?

Does anyone honestly believe that politicians restrict freedom to buy direct because they're just so concerned that consumers will be screwed if they don't have to buy from dealers?
Posted by Artificial Intel
Member since Jan 2023
210 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:33 am to
TD needs a “community notes” feature so idiots like the OP can bath in downvotes.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:38 am to
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Of course this is a solid compromise


A solid compromise? Republicans sure are willing to give up a lot of ground to special interests and call it "solid".

Like we're just gonna let Democrats convert 30% of our kids into trannies instead of 40%. What a solid compromise!

You fools should stop letting dealerships dictate who is legally allowed to sell cars. Full stop.
Posted by moon
USA
Member since Dec 2010
2543 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:45 pm to
Desantis sucks worse than Donny and Joe combined.

Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3636 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 1:00 pm to
I’m sorry, I’m dumb at this moment. Does this mean they can’t get online to purchase a vehicle and must go to a dealership? That doesn’t seem like something he can force.
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
5982 posts
Posted on 6/16/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Republicans are just as corrupt and full of shite as democrats. Maybe one day some of you will wake up.


I'm not saying the Libertarians have it right, because that goes against what a Libertarian stands for... but...
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