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Flight Instructor berates student on social media before fatal crash

Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:33 am
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:33 am
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Pilot Timothy A. McKellar Jr., 22, of Custer, and flight student Connor W. Quisenberry, 18, of Beaver Dam, died in the crash. McKellar’s Snapchat story begins with him on camera, shaking his head along with the caption, “me and this student should not get along if he was my full-time student. I’ve seen faster at the Special Olympics.” The camera then flips around to show flight student, Conner Quisenberry, who appears to be doing a pre-flight inspection. The video continues and McKellar is seen impatiently and audibly tapping his fingers on the outside of the plane while Quisenberry prepares for flight. With 8:39 p.m. on the screen, McKellar is heard saying, “C’mon.” He then indicates the pair has a three-hour flight ahead of them. The video then appears to show the plane moving down the runway. McKellar writes disparaging comments about Quisenberry, his student, calling him “Forrest Gump Jr” and writing that he’s not the smartest in his class. The video continues and the pair are in the air and as the story progresses, McKellar seemingly boasts about being harsh in his feedback to Quisenberry—once again referring to the teen as Forrest Gump. McKellar says Quisenberry responded to the criticism by saying, “I don’t mind you being hard on me. I know I need it.” The video then shows a preview of the final flight path from Bowling Green to Owensboro overtop radar showing severe storms heading toward their path. McKellar circles the storms and writes, “headed are [sic] way like a group of pissed off hornets.” That was the last snap. A replay of the flight from Flightradar24—a flight tracking application—appears to show a flight without incident, until the plane veers to the east, north of Beaver Dam and abruptly spirals through the air near Whitesville. The plane crashed in Ohio County—close to the Daviess County line, killing both McKellar and Quisenberry. The Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board are both investigating the crash. Local investigators tell Spectrum News 1, federal authorities have a copy of the video. The video has many concerned about the treatment of the student and the decision to fly at night during severe weather. Spectrum News 1 spoke to the instructor who trained McKellar under the condition of anonymity. He said although the social media video is disturbing, both McKellar and Quisenberry are victims of what he calls a broken system. According to McKellar’s instructor, flight schools across the country are cutting corners on safety and allowing instructors to burn out, either for profit or for the sake of helping instructors get the required 1,500 hours of flight time required by the FAA to enter the airline industry. He added, it’s a measure meant to add safety to airlines, but said it has caused unsafe patterns at the academy level.

Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:35 am to
YouTube Video from pilot about crash
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 4:28 am
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:55 am to
A 22-year old flight instructor?

And one who's barely literate?

Wow.
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 3:06 am to
Posted by 0x15E
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 3:33 am to
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 3:36 am to
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headed are way
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 4:01 am to
Has Blancolirio talked about this yet?
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 4:25 am to
He had great parenting to guide him.


This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 4:30 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 5:31 am to
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“headed are [sic] way like a group of pissed off hornets.”

Sounds like he wasn’t too smart either.
Posted by SLafourche07
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:40 am to
He doesn’t sound like the hottest spoon in the dope house either.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:43 am to
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A 22-year old flight instructor?


My thought exactly. No way he’s experienced enough to be teaching others to be a pilot.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:48 am to
If you can’t use our and are properly you’ve got no business teaching anybody how to fly a plane.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:50 am to
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A 22-year old flight instructor?

And one who's barely literate?

Wow.


And that cocky like he knows it all. Recipe for disaster
Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:51 am to
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No way he’s experienced enough to be teaching others to be a pilot.


Even if he had tons of experience and was very talented, he plainly lacked the maturity and composure to be in that position.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:57 am to
Well he won't be doing that again. Lesson learned.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:02 am to
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My thought exactly. No way he’s experienced enough to be teaching others to be a pilot


My thought as well but when I listened to the YouTube video by Pilot Debrief he made it sound as if it is not that uncommon anymore to have a flight instructor in their 20’s.

His Insta paints him as an entitled little douche (which has been confirmed now).

Insta
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 7:06 am
Posted by GEAUXT
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:04 am to
Not uncommon at all. He could have 6 years of flight experience by that time
Posted by 0x15E
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:05 am to
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Even if he had tons of experience and was very talented, he plainly lacked the maturity and composure to be in that position.


Most 21 year olds do. I bet few here can say they were ready to be responsible for another person’s life and well-being at that age.

Then again, that’s the system the FAA puts them in. Make civilian pilots get 1500 hours to get hired, and keep the minimum age for CFI at 18 years of age.

The mental maturity, especially with social media, is practically non-existent at that age. Surprised more accidents like this don’t happen.
Posted by Spoonbilla
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:07 am to
I expect my flight instructor to look like Wilfred Brimley before the diabeetus. Not a tiktok clown.
Posted by Ag Zwin
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:08 am to
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Spectrum News 1 spoke to the instructor who trained McKellar under the condition of anonymity. He said although the social media video is disturbing, both McKellar and Quisenberry are victims of what he calls a broken system.

“Anonymity”, except for all those federal records showing you as the instructor.

He’s right, though. There are several things about the system that are out of date and counterproductive.
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