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re: First time car owner oil change

Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56166 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:13 am to
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Don’t take it to one of those 5 minute oil changes or Bennys


This. Two different places screwed up my oil pan plugs. Have gone with dealership changes since then, about 20 years ago.
Posted by SECretariat
Member since Jun 2015
397 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:27 am to
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If you don`t care what oil they put in and just watch to make sure they don`t strip the oil pan plug. Meaning look for leaks after leaving the place. Just make sure you know what your car is supposed to use. Like Synthetic or standard oil.



Welp, I'm obviously not the best with cars. THIS explained a lot. I've had some leaking after a recent oil change... brought it back to 5 min. oil and they blamed it their failure to wipe down the skid plate properly. It's slowed down some, but I thought it may be because they tightened the bolt further. If this is the cause, is this an easy fix of buying a new plug?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31202 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:33 am to
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If this is the cause, is this an easy fix of buying a new plug?


It may mean they were simply too lazy to replace the crush washer. Hopefully, they didn't strip the pan threads.
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:46 am to
I'm looking at 90- 110 for our vehicles each change
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
7581 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:52 am to
Change it yourself, depending on the car it shouldn't be too difficult. Mine is $30 for 5 Qts of full synthetic, $10 filter, $1 crush washer, and 15-20 minutes of my time.

$20 for an oil change sounds sketchy. Is that for labor only?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:52 am to
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It's time for my first oil change in my car. I know it's pretty straightforward to have done but I just wanted to verify before taking it in that I wasn't going to get hosed by somebody. I was thinking about taking it into a Firestone for about $20. Is there anything wrong with that?


No , there isn't anything wrong with that. Just be aware that they aren't making money on the oil change, and they don't intent to make money on the oil change. The money is in nitpicking your vehicle to death , giving you a list of repairs that need to be done and hoping that even 50% of oil change customers will get some of the work done, which is where they will make their money.

Now, bear in mind, most places that do this are not dishonest, they aren't telling you that you need repairs that you don't need done, it's just that in most cases you can either wait, or have the work done somewhere else cheaper.

For example, you get an oil change done, and they make a notation that your power steering rack is leaking and needs replaced. Well , ideally yes it probably does need to be replaced, but in reality it's a minor leak that could either be ignored or simply add some stop leak to the system.

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:58 am to
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I am going to start doing my own oil changes. Where do you dump the old oil? I remember dumping it down the storm drains but apparently that is a no no now


Go to Autozone and they have a container you can buy for like $6. It's very wide mouthed, perfect oil container, holds 2.5 gallons, comes with a lid. simply fill it up and then the next time you go to autozone take the full container with you and they will dispose of the oil for you properly, no charge. Don't be dumping that shite in the trash or down the drain.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17193 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:59 am to
You should not be driving if A) you do not know how and when to change the oil in your own vehicle and B) if you can not change a tire on your own vehicle.





Sounds like you better have daddy take care if it for you pumpkin.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103915 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:47 am to
Go buy 6 quarts of 5w-30 and a filter and do it your damn self.

People these days I swear
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:52 am to
OK, what kind of cars are these that y'all are claiming need $80+ oil changes?

I'm seriously curious.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31202 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Go buy 6 quarts of 5w-30 and a filter and do it your damn self.

People these days I swear


Great advise, you just told a car noob to very likely overfill his engine by 1-2 quarts of oil (which may not be the correct weight to begin with). When he drives the oil will become aerated, lose shear strength and grind his engine into shavings. At least the OP is smart enough to know what he doesn't know.
Posted by tokenasian37
Member since Aug 2007
964 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:15 pm to
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they tightened the bolt further. If this is the cause, is this an easy fix of buying a new plug?


If the pan threads are stripped, do not purchase those oversize bolts to replace your current one. Either you'll have to replace the pan or take the pan off and re-thread it. Just hope they didn't over torque and stripped your pan.

Below is the oversize bolt you don't want to use.


Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9595 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:17 pm to
Ive been going to Rapid Lube on Essen for over 20 years and never had an issue. Their pricing is about average.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:32 pm to
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OK, what kind of cars are these that y'all are claiming need $80+ oil changes?


My dad's auto repair shop doesn't do oil changes specifically because even at $80 on the average oil change he wouldn't be making any money. We even take our own vehicles to the local Jiffy Lube type place. Averages $50-60 depending on oil used.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31202 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:46 pm to
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OK, what kind of cars are these that y'all are claiming need $80+ oil changes?


My 997 TT took 8 quarts of A40 spec synthetic, filter, an O ring, a washer for the crank case and washer for the oil tank. My E46 M3 takes 7 quarts of a specific Castrol formulation, filter and crush washer. Both over $70 in materials at internet prices, significantly more in-town which means the dealership.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:10 pm to
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It cost around $25-$35 to change your own oil if you use regular oil. Synthetic is a good bit higher.


Incorrect. You can get 5 qts of Mobil 1 and a Mobile 1 filter for $35 and change all day at Walmart.

I did just that on my mom's 99 Maxima yesterday. Has to be about the easiest car to change the oil in I've ever worked on. The only thing close as easy was my 83 RX7.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:14 pm to
If you buy the oil and filter, Jiffy Lube charges like $29 to change the oil using your supplies. I did that on the first oil change for my 2017 GT when I got it to San Jose.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 2:11 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:14 pm to
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Incorrect. You can get 5 qts of Mobil 1 and a Mobile 1 filter for $35 and change all day at Walmart.

I did just that on my mom's 99 Maxima yesterday. Has to be about the easiest car to change the oil in I've ever worked on. The only thing close as easy was my 83 RX7.


I'm sorry but if you're paying $35 for materials and changing your own oil instead of just paying a professional $50-60 to do it, you simply do not value your own time. Oh you can claim "oh I just like to check my own car out or whatever" but what a load of nonsense. You are either too poor to afford to pay a little extra , or don't value your own time.

Be like someone saying "I cut my own hair, I mean a pair of scissors is $35 and I can use them 20 times , why pay $20 for a haircut? Plus this way I can check out my head and make sure everything is okay" LOL
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:17 pm to
Actually, it takes me less than ten minutes, and it's a good opportunity for me, a highyly experienced mechanic, to look over my mom's car and make sure everythings OK, so I don't have to worry when I go back to California that she's going to have any issues.

So yeah, you are sorry.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:23 pm to
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Actually, it takes me less than ten minutes, and it's a good opportunity for me, a highyly experienced mechanic, to look over my mom's car and make sure everythings OK, so I don't have to worry when I go back to California that she's going to have any issues.

So yeah, you are sorry.



If you were "an experienced mechanic" and had an out of town mom who you were worried about making sure her car was in good shape, you wouldn't do the occasional oil change when you saw her, you wold help her find a trusted place to have her car worked on when need be so that she would KNOW her cat was in good shape without having to wait for you to come visit to make sure

Sorry you and your mom are poor tho.
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