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re: Finding job after getting fired. How screwed am I?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:27 pm to sctiger07
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:27 pm to sctiger07
Don't ever tell a potential employee that you were fired but it wasn't your fault. Even if it really wasn't. It makes you look like someone who never takes responsibility.
But to answer your question. How in demand are your skills? I used to work with this dude who was opening up emails he friends would send him of porn (this was over 10 years ago). Evidently he was just looking at it as casual as one could and a female employee passed down his row of cubes. She went to her office and contacted HR.. Within 20 mins HR and his boss was at his cube escorting him out. Another guy who was friends with him told us the following week he found another job. He was a pipe designer
But to answer your question. How in demand are your skills? I used to work with this dude who was opening up emails he friends would send him of porn (this was over 10 years ago). Evidently he was just looking at it as casual as one could and a female employee passed down his row of cubes. She went to her office and contacted HR.. Within 20 mins HR and his boss was at his cube escorting him out. Another guy who was friends with him told us the following week he found another job. He was a pipe designer
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:27 pm to everytrueson
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In the current environment the only thing your former employer will do is verify employment. If they do anything other than that it becomes a liability for them.
This is pretty accurate. Only things we would answer was confirm that the person worked for us and if they were currently eligible for rehire.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:28 pm to sctiger07
You’re in a big enough area to be anonymous. Take a few days, lick your wounds, get your story straight, and you should be good.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:28 pm to cgrand
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answer the questions as they come and be honest
bullshite .
Employers dont want honesty, they want you to make them feel warm and fuzzy and that you’ll be an asset to them.. As other posters upthread have mentioned, the former employer is extremely limited in details they can give out about you.. unless you live in a small town or something, where everyone knows everyone else, in which case you should probably expand ur horizons and look for your next employer in a larger city environment .. If i were you, just try to figure out a way to put as enthusiastic and as positive a spin on why things didn’t work out as you can, even if you have to fib your way through it .. most employers love optimism and despise negative Nancys .
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:30 pm to sctiger07
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Found out today that I was getting fired from my job due to performance. Never got put on a PIP.
Just say you're gay and sue for discrimination
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:33 pm to sctiger07
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Found out today that I was getting fired from my job due to performance.
Just to clarify: You mean you were fired but never knew the reason ?
In future interviews never blame previous employers
Generic but good advice from AI
1. Self-Assessment: Reflect on the reasons behind your dismissal to pinpoint areas for personal growth.
2. Seek Feedback: Reach out to your former employer for constructive feedback.
3. Enhance Skills: Work on developing both technical and interpersonal skills in areas that need improvement.
4. Maintain Positivity: Remember that setbacks are common; use this experience as motivation for success.
5. Build Connections: Network with colleagues and peers to learn and uncover new opportunities.
6. Show Progress: Emphasize your development and lessons learned in future job applications.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:35 pm to Pepperoni
Nobody gets fired. The shite didn't work out. If you have an interview, they are liking for capable people. Talk about what you can do!
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:35 pm to sctiger07
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y worry is that I am not an attractive person for a job if I come in and state that I got fired or messed up.
Is this something you have to state?
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:40 pm to BK Lounge
That’s the thing. I get what you are saying. Do I lie and say “things didn’t work out” or do I say “my performance declined due to some health reason that played a part in my performance but it’s been addressed”/ “I was laid off”
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:40 pm to sctiger07
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Should I tell the interviewer that I got fired?
There are diplomatic ways to talk about getting fired (or better put, dismissed). First and foremost, they'll ask why you got fired. Even with background checks, HR departments do not have access to your performance records or reasons for dismissal.
Unless the cause was criminal (e.g. stealing from your organization), it will not show up on your background check.
Choose your words wisely and be diplomatic in how you talk about your dismissal. “I was let go after a change in management.” Or “I was not a great fit for the position as _____ because my strengths are _______ (steer back to positive).”
From LINK https://www.idealist.org/en/careers/left-bad-terms-potential-employer
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:41 pm to sctiger07
Tell the new potential boss what your corrective actions are concerning what your old boss had to say
You can't run or hide from the past. They will pick up on that if if you try
You can't run or hide from the past. They will pick up on that if if you try
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:42 pm to sctiger07
Nobody needs to know that you got fired. I've served on about 40 interview panels this fiscal year for a variety of positions, and the reason for the interviewee leaving their previous job has NEVER come up in an interview.
Don't let that shite weigh you down, even though it sucks. You're falling into a pretty friendly job market, and if you can demonstrate confidence and aptitude during your interviews, you'll land something in no time.
I'm rooting for you.
Don't let that shite weigh you down, even though it sucks. You're falling into a pretty friendly job market, and if you can demonstrate confidence and aptitude during your interviews, you'll land something in no time.
I'm rooting for you.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:42 pm to sctiger07
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even some other people agreed with me.
Criticism first, no they didn't they just were being polite.
It is likely not going to come up unless the potential employers know someone at the old firm well enough to get an "off the record" assessment of you. If they do you probably aren't going to get an interview anyway.
The thing is you can't go in like a whipped dog and you have to have a confident explanation for the gap in your resume. You have to project confidence even if it is false but avoid the over confident persona that is easy to fall into when you are trying to project a false image.
Keep in mind finding a professional job that is a good fit for both sides often takes a minute. So the key is don't let it bring you down further, at least don't let potential employers smell the desperation. You will likely look back years from now and see this as a blessing in disguise and the experience will make you a better manager of people when that time comes.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:45 pm to TigerIron
Not explicitly. But I think recruiters can jump to conclusions.
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:45 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Nobody gets fired. The shite didn't work out
Amen brother
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:48 pm to TooFyeToFly
This is truth. If they are interviewing you they should be looking for reasons not to hire you if you get what I'm saying. Nothing Wil be attached to your last job. They all know there are shitty companies out there. Talk about how you will help them succeed. They are looking for help!
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:49 pm to sctiger07
CPA firms are, in general, trash. Avoid
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:49 pm to Tiger Ryno
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They all know there are shitty companies out there.
Truth
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:51 pm to sctiger07
Been there…
I struggled with being honest and telling them in interviews, or just saying i left due to “no confidence in leadership to develop and further my career”, which technically is the truth, albeit a stretch.
If your interviewing with places network with, know, etc. your old coworkers, probably need to explain situation.
Anyone else , use the line above.
They can verify if you’ve worked there, but 99% of places won’t say why you left for fear of lawsuit
Good luck!
I struggled with being honest and telling them in interviews, or just saying i left due to “no confidence in leadership to develop and further my career”, which technically is the truth, albeit a stretch.
If your interviewing with places network with, know, etc. your old coworkers, probably need to explain situation.
Anyone else , use the line above.
They can verify if you’ve worked there, but 99% of places won’t say why you left for fear of lawsuit
Good luck!
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:51 pm to sctiger07
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My worry is that I am not an attractive person for a job if I come in and state that I got fired or messed up.
Do some honest valuation - did you mess up?
If so, why? Do you find the work interesting?
If not, it will be hard to do a good job.
I have been with the same company for 30+ years and like what I do. I am pretty good at it. Even as an older dude, I could get a job with the competition tomorrow because I know what I am doing and would not want to work for a company that did not have an interest in good outcomes. These two qualities would open many doors for me.
Set yourself up for success, not a prison sentence of doing something you are not interested in for decades to come.
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