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re: Finding job after getting fired. How screwed am I?

Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117295 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:27 pm to
Don't ever tell a potential employee that you were fired but it wasn't your fault. Even if it really wasn't. It makes you look like someone who never takes responsibility.

But to answer your question. How in demand are your skills? I used to work with this dude who was opening up emails he friends would send him of porn (this was over 10 years ago). Evidently he was just looking at it as casual as one could and a female employee passed down his row of cubes. She went to her office and contacted HR.. Within 20 mins HR and his boss was at his cube escorting him out. Another guy who was friends with him told us the following week he found another job. He was a pipe designer
Posted by GEAUXLPOST
Member since Sep 2012
1431 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:27 pm to
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In the current environment the only thing your former employer will do is verify employment. If they do anything other than that it becomes a liability for them.


This is pretty accurate. Only things we would answer was confirm that the person worked for us and if they were currently eligible for rehire.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
82536 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:28 pm to
You’re in a big enough area to be anonymous. Take a few days, lick your wounds, get your story straight, and you should be good.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 10:30 pm
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:28 pm to
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answer the questions as they come and be honest



bullshite .


Employers dont want honesty, they want you to make them feel warm and fuzzy and that you’ll be an asset to them.. As other posters upthread have mentioned, the former employer is extremely limited in details they can give out about you.. unless you live in a small town or something, where everyone knows everyone else, in which case you should probably expand ur horizons and look for your next employer in a larger city environment .. If i were you, just try to figure out a way to put as enthusiastic and as positive a spin on why things didn’t work out as you can, even if you have to fib your way through it .. most employers love optimism and despise negative Nancys .
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
9593 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:30 pm to
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Found out today that I was getting fired from my job due to performance. Never got put on a PIP.


Just say you're gay and sue for discrimination
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3906 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:33 pm to
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Found out today that I was getting fired from my job due to performance.


Just to clarify: You mean you were fired but never knew the reason ?

In future interviews never blame previous employers


Generic but good advice from AI
1. Self-Assessment: Reflect on the reasons behind your dismissal to pinpoint areas for personal growth.
2. Seek Feedback: Reach out to your former employer for constructive feedback.
3. Enhance Skills: Work on developing both technical and interpersonal skills in areas that need improvement.
4. Maintain Positivity: Remember that setbacks are common; use this experience as motivation for success.
5. Build Connections: Network with colleagues and peers to learn and uncover new opportunities.
6. Show Progress: Emphasize your development and lessons learned in future job applications.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
105390 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:35 pm to
Nobody gets fired. The shite didn't work out. If you have an interview, they are liking for capable people. Talk about what you can do!
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3644 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:35 pm to
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y worry is that I am not an attractive person for a job if I come in and state that I got fired or messed up.


Is this something you have to state?
Posted by sctiger07
Member since Jul 2024
16 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:40 pm to
That’s the thing. I get what you are saying. Do I lie and say “things didn’t work out” or do I say “my performance declined due to some health reason that played a part in my performance but it’s been addressed”/ “I was laid off”
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3906 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:40 pm to
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Should I tell the interviewer that I got fired?

There are diplomatic ways to talk about getting fired (or better put, dismissed). First and foremost, they'll ask why you got fired. Even with background checks, HR departments do not have access to your performance records or reasons for dismissal.

Unless the cause was criminal (e.g. stealing from your organization), it will not show up on your background check.

Choose your words wisely and be diplomatic in how you talk about your dismissal. “I was let go after a change in management.” Or “I was not a great fit for the position as _____ because my strengths are _______ (steer back to positive).”


From LINK https://www.idealist.org/en/careers/left-bad-terms-potential-employer
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17231 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:41 pm to
Tell the new potential boss what your corrective actions are concerning what your old boss had to say

You can't run or hide from the past. They will pick up on that if if you try
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1682 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:42 pm to
Nobody needs to know that you got fired. I've served on about 40 interview panels this fiscal year for a variety of positions, and the reason for the interviewee leaving their previous job has NEVER come up in an interview.

Don't let that shite weigh you down, even though it sucks. You're falling into a pretty friendly job market, and if you can demonstrate confidence and aptitude during your interviews, you'll land something in no time.

I'm rooting for you.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28323 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:42 pm to
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even some other people agreed with me.


Criticism first, no they didn't they just were being polite.

It is likely not going to come up unless the potential employers know someone at the old firm well enough to get an "off the record" assessment of you. If they do you probably aren't going to get an interview anyway.

The thing is you can't go in like a whipped dog and you have to have a confident explanation for the gap in your resume. You have to project confidence even if it is false but avoid the over confident persona that is easy to fall into when you are trying to project a false image.

Keep in mind finding a professional job that is a good fit for both sides often takes a minute. So the key is don't let it bring you down further, at least don't let potential employers smell the desperation. You will likely look back years from now and see this as a blessing in disguise and the experience will make you a better manager of people when that time comes.
Posted by sctiger07
Member since Jul 2024
16 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:45 pm to
Not explicitly. But I think recruiters can jump to conclusions.
Posted by TooFyeToFly
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1682 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:45 pm to
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Nobody gets fired. The shite didn't work out


Amen brother
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
105390 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:48 pm to
This is truth. If they are interviewing you they should be looking for reasons not to hire you if you get what I'm saying. Nothing Wil be attached to your last job. They all know there are shitty companies out there. Talk about how you will help them succeed. They are looking for help!
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4121 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:49 pm to
CPA firms are, in general, trash. Avoid
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3906 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:49 pm to
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They all know there are shitty companies out there.

Truth
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
1084 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:51 pm to
Been there…

I struggled with being honest and telling them in interviews, or just saying i left due to “no confidence in leadership to develop and further my career”, which technically is the truth, albeit a stretch.

If your interviewing with places network with, know, etc. your old coworkers, probably need to explain situation.

Anyone else , use the line above.

They can verify if you’ve worked there, but 99% of places won’t say why you left for fear of lawsuit

Good luck!
Posted by agilitydawg
Member since Aug 2022
158 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:51 pm to
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My worry is that I am not an attractive person for a job if I come in and state that I got fired or messed up.


Do some honest valuation - did you mess up?
If so, why? Do you find the work interesting?
If not, it will be hard to do a good job.
I have been with the same company for 30+ years and like what I do. I am pretty good at it. Even as an older dude, I could get a job with the competition tomorrow because I know what I am doing and would not want to work for a company that did not have an interest in good outcomes. These two qualities would open many doors for me.

Set yourself up for success, not a prison sentence of doing something you are not interested in for decades to come.
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