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Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:57 pm to REG861
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probably from the bevy of highly publicized lawsuits concerning illegal kickbacks
I'm glad they caught those unethical bastards. Wouldn't call two cases from years ago a "bevy" though. I stand by my statement - anyone who thinks the common doctor gets financial kickbacks for prescribing meds is completely ignorant. Your stupid is showing on this topic. Sorry.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:07 pm to leveedogs
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stand by my statement - anyone who thinks the common doctor gets financial kickbacks for prescribing meds is completely ignorant. Your stupid is showing on this topic. Sorry.
Dem pizzas and donuts doh!!!
But they laid down the law!! NO MORE DRUG PENS!! Those writing implements were a SCOURGE on mankind. Lol
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:11 pm to leveedogs
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Ain't no kickbacks for any prescribed drugs
And the mafia doesn't exist. I get it.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:12 pm to leveedogs
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Wouldn't call two cases from years ago a "bevy" though.
Would you like me keep citing more?
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Your stupid is showing on this topic. Sorry.
Because I completely contradicted your dumbass statement? i know you're partial to your doctors because they accept your Medicaid but they are human and prone to corruption too.
And honestly, it goes well beyond kickbacks. It's more about the misinformation and deliberately false ad campaign run by big pharma companies like Purdue Pharma that enabled well intentioned doctors to over prescribe. There were mammoth lawsuits about this too, where companies like Purdue were found guilty of misrepresenting the extremely addictive nature of Oxycontin and other drugs. Kickbacks are probably a significantly smaller contributor to the problem than the flooding of false information by Big Pharma.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:23 pm to Jim Rockford
Fentanyl lolli pops. Corpsmen always had a few on hand at all time. Takes a man's mind off of extreme injuries almost immediately. I'm talking horrible injuries and guy just laughing and shooting the shot.
Way more potent than morphine
Way more potent than morphine
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:26 pm to RickyDonSkaggs
you ever seen them smoking hot drug reps lol they don't need money. they got hoes
ain't go lie fent lolli pop sounds kinda enticing. i mean it's a lolli pop
ain't go lie fent lolli pop sounds kinda enticing. i mean it's a lolli pop
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:30 pm to upgrayedd
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I wish I knew what the answer was to this problem. That's completely absurd.
I watched something on it a few weeks ago. I don't know much about the deep web or whatever, but from what I understand, the site 'the silk road'?? was THE site for buying illegal drugs online, but when the feds shut it down... there were multiple sites similar to it that started popping up. People are able to easily order Fentanyl, which I think they order from China and other countries.
If I am not mistaking, they ship it in things like stuffed animals, etc, but it's much easier to come by today than ever before. Until watching that show, I didn't realize how little a person has to take in order for it to kill them.
If in heroin, it gives the user a much better high. Also, sellers will put it in the product from time to time with the intent to cause people to OD, because when users hear that people are ODing in a certain area, they migrate to that area because it is usually a sign of cleaner heroin.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 3:38 pm to OweO
i am the residebnt deep web expert.
there about 1000 deep web websites. silk road was just the most popular. but there are quite a few each specialises in different sit
alpha bay just went down last month. the trade route, dream market, there are countless ones but for the most part, the same vendors sell on all of them.
i can order fent there as easily as i can buy weed, which is after you learn what you're doing, as easy as it is to buy shite off amazon.
i take lexapro and even though i have a script fo rit, i buy it the deep web because i don't like everyhting i do being on my medical records.
there about 1000 deep web websites. silk road was just the most popular. but there are quite a few each specialises in different sit
alpha bay just went down last month. the trade route, dream market, there are countless ones but for the most part, the same vendors sell on all of them.
i can order fent there as easily as i can buy weed, which is after you learn what you're doing, as easy as it is to buy shite off amazon.
i take lexapro and even though i have a script fo rit, i buy it the deep web because i don't like everyhting i do being on my medical records.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:07 pm to REG861
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Kickbacks are probably a significantly smaller contributor to the problem than the flooding of false information by Big Pharma.
I'm happy to see you are stepping back from your ridiculous claim that doctors taking kickbacks is the primary cause of drug addicts overdosing on fentanyl, which is made in china, sold as heroin, and obtained from the streets.
The boogyman Big Pharma doesn't give a rats arse about opioids. They are all generic, cheap as dirt to make, and don't make them any money.
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i know you're partial to your doctors because they accept your Medicaid but they are human and prone to corruption too.
You're a really poor guesser also. I'm an MD, not a medicaid patient. Let me do some guessing. You have probably been addicted to pain killers at some point in your life and rather than blaming your weakness of character for getting addicted you are blaming the prescribing MD that you begged to Rx your oxycodone.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:29 pm to leveedogs
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The boogyman Big Pharma doesn't give a rats arse about opioids. They are all generic, cheap as dirt to make, and don't make them any money.
so I just imagined Purdue Pharma's guilty plea and $600 million fine for falsely promoting OxyContin as harmless?
"The company that makes the narcotic painkiller OxyContin and three current and former executives pleaded guilty today in federal court here to criminal charges that they misled regulators, doctors and patients about the drug’s risk of addiction and its potential to be abused."
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You're a really poor guesser also. I'm an MD, not a medicaid patient. Let me do some guessing. You have probably been addicted to pain killers at some point in your life and rather than blaming your weakness of character for getting addicted you are blaming the prescribing MD that you begged to Rx your oxycodone.
Being a doctor doesn't absolve you from simple minded views or complicity in the opiate crisis for that matter. I've never touched one of those pills in my life, I'm just more well read than your average denizen of this board.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:51 pm to teke184
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Apparently people need to test their heroin before shooting up.
They should just snort it instead of shooting up. Problem solved
Posted on 9/5/17 at 4:52 pm to TigerChief10
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Why do we even make shite that's so powerful that cops have OD'd just from the shite seeping into their skin?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's some BS scare tactic. Nancy Reagan and DARE officers in 5th grade classrooms all over America probably get hard telling kids that
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:17 pm to REG861
Your current opinion of the opioid epidemic is founded on out-of-date information. The Purdue Pharma settlement was ten years ago for unethical activities twenty years ago. And the fact is, oxycontin when taken as directed twice a day is less addictive than taking immediate release oxycodone several times a day. Sure, they probably should have known idiot hillbillies would crush and snort the stuff to get high and they paid for that negligence.
As an MD I have never seen or taken notice of opioid marketing by pharma since finishing med school over 10 years ago. And the idea that we are getting kickbacks for writing drug prescriptions is also laughable.
Maybe as a young MD I am not aware of the shady happenings a few decades ago. But I can tell you with confidence that today's doctors are fairly stingey with narcotic prescriptions. Our controlled substance Rx are monitored by the state and those that prescribe a large amount get special attention from the state boards.
Your implication that it's greedy corrupt doctors that are responsible for the opioid epidemic is just plain wrong. If you spent one week in the trenches and seeing the manipulators we have to deal with daily then you would agree with me - it's not the doctors, it's not pharma, it's the fault of the individual patients who are looking for a high or an chemical escape from their unfortunate circumstances.
As an MD I have never seen or taken notice of opioid marketing by pharma since finishing med school over 10 years ago. And the idea that we are getting kickbacks for writing drug prescriptions is also laughable.
Maybe as a young MD I am not aware of the shady happenings a few decades ago. But I can tell you with confidence that today's doctors are fairly stingey with narcotic prescriptions. Our controlled substance Rx are monitored by the state and those that prescribe a large amount get special attention from the state boards.
Your implication that it's greedy corrupt doctors that are responsible for the opioid epidemic is just plain wrong. If you spent one week in the trenches and seeing the manipulators we have to deal with daily then you would agree with me - it's not the doctors, it's not pharma, it's the fault of the individual patients who are looking for a high or an chemical escape from their unfortunate circumstances.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:44 pm to EyeTwentyNole
Fentanyl is great because it is short acting. I use it to sedate pts for procedures. It is a truly wonderful drug when administered correctly. I give it with Versed. Pts are drowsy, forgetful and compliant. An hour later the effects are gone and they are breathing just fine.
BTW this isn't MDs fault. Look to the Feds and credentialing agencies for blame. It hasn't been that long ago that MDs asses were in a sling for NOT prescribing adequate medication for pain control.
BTW this isn't MDs fault. Look to the Feds and credentialing agencies for blame. It hasn't been that long ago that MDs asses were in a sling for NOT prescribing adequate medication for pain control.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably wouldn't happen if safer shite was readily available.
I can think of a safer drug, bit the assclown policy makers insist on it being Schedule I.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:49 pm to jennBN
The miserable fricking addicts ruin drugs for the rest of us. It's always the dumb useless people who can't control themselves.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:55 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Yeah, I've had my wisdom teeth pulled, gallbladder taken out, and a broken arm.. Never even taken Tylenol as an adult, told the doctors I didn't want pain medicine. Sure, I had some pain, but the body is pretty fricking amazing at easing it on its own.
I'm a firm believer some just concentrate on any physical pain they have and it just amplifies it. Somewhere along the line people started thinking they should never feel anything.
I'm a firm believer some just concentrate on any physical pain they have and it just amplifies it. Somewhere along the line people started thinking they should never feel anything.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:20 pm to AUsteriskPride
i got hooked from a valid prescription of Vicodin ES, given to me in the ER, for strep throat back in 2001.... i didn't ask for it, and even though i was working in a pharmacy, i had no experience with opiates to that point... after 2 days, it didn't hurt anymore, but i still took the meds like i was prescribed...
it was awfully convenient that i had so much access to my drug of choice... i've skated on some extremely thin ice, and never was caught red handed, as i stayed one step ahead of stuff, luckily....
but 12 years later, i got clean, and am still clean to this day... and i'm still around my DOC everyday, but i dunno... it doesn't phase me anymore... i have no desire to go back to that life... my life is much simpler and easier when i'm not having to worry about the counts of my drugs in the pharmacy, or having to worry about who's the guy in the suit i've never seen before that is coming into the pharmacy...
it was awfully convenient that i had so much access to my drug of choice... i've skated on some extremely thin ice, and never was caught red handed, as i stayed one step ahead of stuff, luckily....
but 12 years later, i got clean, and am still clean to this day... and i'm still around my DOC everyday, but i dunno... it doesn't phase me anymore... i have no desire to go back to that life... my life is much simpler and easier when i'm not having to worry about the counts of my drugs in the pharmacy, or having to worry about who's the guy in the suit i've never seen before that is coming into the pharmacy...
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