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Father & Son Kill Mother Bear And Her Two Cubs

Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:10 am
Posted by legalhelpneeded
Houston, Texas
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:10 am
ENVIRONMENT 08/10/2018 04:41 am ET

Father, Son Charged With Killing Mother Bear And ‘Shrieking’ Cubs In Their Den

A father and son have been charged with several crimes after they allegedly shot a mother bear and her crying newborn twins inside their Alaska den, authorities said.

The men’s actions were captured on a motion-activated video camera installed by wildlife officials who were tracking the mother bear.

Owen Renner, 18, was seen on the video shooting the mother black bear in April on Esther Island in Prince William Sound, said police. According to a sworn summary of events by police that was filed in court, the “cubs begin shrieking in the den after the initial shots are fired,” The Anchorage Daily News reported Wednesday.

His father, Andrew Renner, 41, then took “aim through his rifle scope only feet away and fires several more shots, killing the newborn bear cubs,” per the court documents. He was also seen on video saying: ‘It doesn’t matter. Bear down,’” authorities said.

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Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:11 am to
Why would they do this?
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:12 am to
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“They’ll never be able to link it to us,” authorities said.



Lol
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:13 am to
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Why would they do this?


Cause rednecks
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:14 am to
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Why would they do this?


Stupidity. They'll be harassed out of the State.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124229 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:14 am to
Well, there goes the big and Little Dipper.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:15 am to
How could someone shoot this?

Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:17 am to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40094 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:18 am to
Waiting for the OT Hunters to come in here and justify it.
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:19 am to


Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:22 am to
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Waiting for the OT Hunters to come in here and justify it.


A good hunter wont. One that respects the rules.

Anyone defending this, w/o legal right to do so (mom not cubs), is a pos just like these guys.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:22 am to
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Waiting for the OT Hunters to come in here and justify it


Hunting for food is different than killing for sport.

Don't mind hunters.

Can't stand sport killing frickers
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:22 am to
How could they bear to do this?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:22 am to
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Waiting for the OT Hunters to come in here and justify it.


No one is going to justify this.
Posted by floyd of pink
Metry
Member since Nov 2011
3266 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:26 am to
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How could they bear to do this?


HAHAHA holy shite dude. You have a career in standup!

Funniest joke I’ve ever heard. Congrats!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:30 am to
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A good hunter wont.


There are hunters and then there are killers. These weren't hunters.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:32 am to
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Waiting for the OT Hunters to come in here and justify it.

You'll be waiting for a while. A hunter won't try to justify this. A killer will. Big difference.

These guys apparently killed the mother bear illegally. Even if it were legal, no one is going to try to justify killing a mother bear with cubs. It isn't just about the legality of the action at that point--it's also about whether it's ethical or not. Killing the cubs is definitely not cool under any circumstances.

Killing for the fun of it just isn't right. If you are going to use the meat, as long as it's hunted legally and ethically, I don't have an issue with it. And yes, people do eat bear meat. I hear it's actually really good if you cook it right.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108403 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:33 am to
There are literally 30 people that live on that island. They didn’t think that someone would catch on?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129003 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:37 am to
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In a criminal complaint, prosecutors said that the April 14 video showed Owen Renner shoot twice at the mother bear, at which point her cubs began “shrieking.”

The Renners listened for “several minutes” and then realized that it was not the dead bear that was whimpering, but her cubs, according to court records. Then, from a short distance away, Andrew Renner picked up his rifle, looked through the scope and fired “several more shots, killing the newborn bear cubs,” the documents allege. The documents stated that during the slayings, Renner could be heard telling his son, “It doesn’t matter. Bear down.”

They dragged the mother bear from the den and the elder Renner threw the cub carcasses in the snow, saying, “I’m going to get rid of these guys,” according to court records.

In another video clip, court documents say, the 18-year-old told his father that the sow’s collar had been removed; the father responded, “We’re going to skin it that way,” pointing away from the den. Owen Renner then said, “They’ll never be able to link it to us,” according to the court records.


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Prosecutors said the men “butchered” the mother bear and placed the remains in game bags. Two days later, they returned to collect the shell casings and collar and to dispose of the cubs’ bodies, the prosecutors said.

When Andrew Renner took the sow’s remains to a Fish and Game Department office on April 30, he told officials there that he and his son realized that the bear had “teats” after they killed it but that there were no signs of any cubs in the area, according to court records. He also falsely stated on an official document that he killed the bear when, in fact, his son did, according to the documents.


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The Renners were charged this week with numerous crimes in the incident, including one count each of unlawfully taking a female bear with cubs and two counts each of unlawfully taking a bear cub. The elder Renner was also charged with tampering with physical evidence.




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Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 8/11/18 at 9:41 am to
As punishment I think it’s fair that pops should be locked in a cage with a hungry mama bear and two cubs for 24 hours. If he makes it out after 24 hours then he’s free to go.
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