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Fatal police shootings could become a crime under proposed California law

Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67866 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:16 pm


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At issue is Assembly Bill 392, known as the California Act to Save Lives, which would put the onus on officers to justify discharging their weapon, shifting the standard from “reasonable” — as defined by the Supreme Court's 1989 Graham v Connor ruling — to “necessary.” That means that, under the proposed bill, police must feel confident that it is truly necessary to shoot to protect themselves or others from danger, or they could be prosecuted for killing their victim.

Instead of reaching for their guns, officers would be pressed to engage in de-escalation tactics — in addition to considering options such as a Taser or a baton — that aim to reduce tension between officer and suspect. Experts say these include listening to the suspect's story, explaining the actions an officer is about to take, and ensuring that the suspect's dignity is preserved throughout the interaction


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“This bill is about saving lives,” she says. “That includes police lives, and it includes the lives of bystanders. My son was shot in a Walmart parking lot at Christmas.”



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Some also argue that there often is a racial component at play.

“Time and time again, officers manage to safely arrest people who are armed and dangerous, though often those people are white,” says Lizzie Buchen, legislative advocate for the ACLU of California.

“We know police have the tools and skills to apprehend people without harming them,” says Buchen. “But there are just dramatic discrepancies of outcomes when you’re dealing with people of color.”


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This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89481 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:18 pm to
I know it has been said before, but it bears repeating - California is so completely done it is difficult for the mind to comprehend.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259935 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:18 pm to
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though often those people are white,” says Lizzie Buchen, legislative advocate for the ACLU of California.


Such a retarded stance
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29120 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:19 pm to
Say hello to a lot more dead cops.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24565 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:20 pm to
So stupid
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62729 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:23 pm to
In order to vote for this bill, I think all lawmakers spend a month or so following a police officer around. Especially working weekend night shifts in places like Oakland and Compton.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60254 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:24 pm to
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Say hello to a lot more dead cops


Doubtful. “Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.”
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:25 pm to
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At issue is Assembly Bill 392, known as the California Act to Save Lives, which would put the onus on officers to justify discharging their weapon, shifting the standard from “reasonable” — as defined by the Supreme Court's 1989 Graham v Connor ruling — to “necessary.” That means that, under the proposed bill, police must feel confident that it is truly necessary to shoot to protect themselves or others from danger, or they could be prosecuted for killing their victim.


I just cant gin up any outrage over this part and actually agree with it.

There have been enough bad acts to warrant change
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:26 pm to
If only California and Oregon would fall into the ocean, taking all the SJW's with them.

Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:27 pm to
I love the shirts, 100% tax payers paid for them.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:28 pm to
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Say hello to a lot more dead cops.
More like more dead civilians cause there will be fewer cops and more crime. frick California.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:29 pm to
Next years headline: "California Pleads for Help Policing the State as Academy Draws Zero Applicants". Film at 11, back to Bobby Jane and sports....
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67866 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:29 pm to
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In order to vote for this bill, I think all lawmakers spend a month or so following a police officer around. Especially working weekend night shifts in places like Oakland and Compton.




Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7311 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:31 pm to
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Say hello to a lot more dead cops.


And a self perpetuating problem where nobody wants to be a cop anymore so the quality of cops declines so crime rises. It’s the beginnings of America turning into a third world country.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18397 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:32 pm to
More laws that come from people who will never risk their arse for anyone else.
Posted by Uncle Don
The Big House
Member since Jul 2018
4229 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:33 pm to
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Say hello to no more cops.


FIFY
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 9:34 pm
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:41 pm to
I have a lot of cop friends. I’m glad none of them are in California.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:00 pm to
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ensuring that the suspect's dignity is preserved throughout the interaction


The best way to preserve your dignity is to be respectful to the LEO and comply with his commands. It would also help to not wave a damn weapon around and end up with an extra 12 ounces of lead in your arse.
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:03 pm to
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California Act to Save Lives

Lmfao I mean come on
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 10:03 pm
Posted by helluvaday
Member since Jun 2018
443 posts
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:07 pm to
Move it to the political board
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