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re: Fatal police shootings could become a crime under proposed California law
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:07 pm to Tigerbait357
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:07 pm to Tigerbait357
Or, you know, put the onus on the MFers breaking the law to not...break the law.
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Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:12 pm to Tigerbait357
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Instead of reaching for their guns, officers would be pressed to engage in de-escalation tactics — in addition to consid
Cops already do this. When it doesn’t work is when they use deadly force.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:17 pm to Tigerbait357
I don't know if this is the answer but something has to be done. There are way too many questionable deaths.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:19 pm to Tigerbait357
Liberals are completely ruining this state. It will look like Detroit soon enough.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:38 pm to Tigerbait357
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This bill is about saving lives.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:41 pm to Tigerbait357
After calming down and reading that, I can't say that I disagree. I think lethal force only should be used when it is "necessary" and not when it is simply "reasonable"...
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:42 pm to Tigerbait357
Police are 18.5 times more likely to be killed in the line of duty than an unarmed black man being killed by police.
frick california
frick california
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:10 pm to Spankum
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After calming down and reading that, I can't say that I disagree. I think lethal force only should be used when it is "necessary" and not when it is simply "reasonable"...
I agree. I thought it was a terrible idea at first but there are too many instances of cops using lethal force on unarmed civilians & even cases of them shooting people who are running away. They should only use for real threats.
This post was edited on 5/18/19 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:14 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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They should only use for real threats.
You clueless children have no idea how quickly it can escalate to a "real threat" (like you even know what that means). First time a cop is killed in the line of duty because they hesitated under a law like this I bet you and the other armchair experts will be silent.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:17 pm to Spankum
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can't say that I disagree.
There's some good stuff in there, but the comment about white people made me realize how easily manipulated people are
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:19 pm to Tigerbait357
Las Vegas and Boise bout to get more people.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:22 pm to Tigerbait357
They’ll be patrolling the streets with the National Guard once all the cops quit. Nobody who values his or her own life will remain a cop in California while burdened with that bullshite.
It could result in a huge windfall of cops to Arizona, Nevada, and Washington, all of whom are in desperate need of cops and have lower cost of living.
It could result in a huge windfall of cops to Arizona, Nevada, and Washington, all of whom are in desperate need of cops and have lower cost of living.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:24 pm to TigersSEC2010
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They’ll be patrolling the streets with the National Guard once all the cops quit. Nobody who values his or her own life will remain a cop in California while burdened with that bullshite.
There are a lot of good people in California but the most vocal are definitely nutty. Just stop patrolling the neighborhoods that don't want them there and let them implode.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 12:58 am to Clames
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You clueless children have no idea how quickly it can escalate to a "real threat" (like you even know what that means).
I'm far from a child considering I'm 46.
No, you're clueless if you think someone running away is a real threat just because "it could escalate". Just because something COULD escalate doesn't mean it's ok to shoot to kill.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 1:00 am
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:49 am to Tigerbait357
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“Time and time again, officers manage to safely arrest people who are armed and dangerous, though often those people are white,” says Lizzie Buchen, legislative advocate for the ACLU of California.
“We know police have the tools and skills to apprehend people without harming them,” says Buchen. “But there are just dramatic discrepancies of outcomes when you’re dealing with people of color.”
Funny,because this running 5 year study by the Washington Post shows that more than twice as many whites are involved in fatal police shootings than blacks. Must be our "white privilege."
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Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:40 am to cave canem
There have been very few bad acts. Nothing justifies this bill.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:47 am to fallguy_1978
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Just stop patrolling the neighborhoods that don't want them there and let them implode.
Perfect solution. Just use these areas as an interesting little social experiment. They contribute nothing to society as it is. What do you have to lose?
Posted on 5/19/19 at 6:08 am to cave canem
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I just cant gin up any outrage over this part and actually agree with it.
There have been enough bad acts to warrant change
Agreed. Police need to be checked. They are not the gestapo, but they certainly act like it.
To the down voting goons, I am sure your stance would change if someone in your family was killed by police and they lied to justify the murder.
Cops signed up for the job and should accept the hazards of the job instead of just "try to get home to muh family."
Posted on 5/19/19 at 6:14 am to Clames
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First time a cop is killed in the line of duty because they hesitated under a law like this I bet you and the other armchair experts will be silent.
Hazard of the job.
I am all for pumping lead into a thug with a gun who is trying to kill someone or a cop, but there are too many instances where these JBTs killed someone because they could justify it, not because it was necessary. Take Daniel Shaver for instance...completely unnecessary and tantamount to murder IMO.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 6:39 am to Spankum
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After calming down and reading that, I can't say that I disagree. I think lethal force only should be used when it is "necessary" and not when it is simply "reasonable"...
There’s a thin line between reasonable and necessary, and one that likely can’t be often proven in court. “Reasonable” is the proper standard here.
Is it reasonable to defend one’s life when it’s a reasonable thing to do? I think it’s necessary to defend one’s life when it’s a reasonable thing to do. Seems like the change is trying to dance around saying guilty until proven innocent.
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