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re: Fastest Suicide In History

Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:27 pm to
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so why go with this “cheap” sub?

Was the dumbest thing I'd heard of in a long long time.

And when I saw what they were going down in I said = "oh hell no!'
Posted by speedybaw
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:42 pm to
So where the passengers able to take a shite in there during the ride?
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:46 pm to
I still don’t understand why some people are SO obsessed with titanic. Yes, it’s a crazy story, but who really cares.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2656 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:56 pm to
What about that other guy that died and spent life obsessed with the Titanic? Do y’all think he wanted to die also or knew the increased risk with that lemon sub?
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 12:59 pm to
Thing I think is the wildest is his fortune, albeit generations ago, came from.people who died on the Titanic.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:02 pm to
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don’t understand why some people are SO obsessed with titanic. Yes, it’s a crazy story, but who really cares.


Purely because of the story. And the movie of course.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:40 pm to
I watched the documentary.

He fired so many people because he wanted yes men and women and if disputed anything or questioned anything boom you were fired and replaced.

His company is being sued by so many people and the guy that originally turned him into OSHA but then got threatened into cancelling the complain needs to get millions for him ruining his and his families lives.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 1:59 pm to
I mean it would be cool to go down deep in a sub… I wouldn't skimp on it though.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:11 pm to
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I mean it would be cool to go down deep in a sub… I wouldn't skimp on it though.


The nuttiest thing about this is - it's literally not rocket science to build a highly reliable submersible. It's laughably easy. A sphere of titanium (or, you could use steel at the cost of weight, though, so realistically titanium is the better material and cheaper over the life because of that lighter weight) isn't going to fail. Everything else can break on it and the support vessel just hauls it back up and you rebuild it.

The problem was that, at the size he wanted to take paying passengers, he just couldn't make it profitable (at least not quickly enough) to have a 2-man bulletproof submersible (like the ultramodern Limiting Factor, now known as Bakunawa). It would be too costly to operate, only 1 paying passenger, much heavier so that little launch sled wouldn't have been enough, etc.

(But, lest we forget, there is a currently operating manned submersible that is capable of reaching the Titanic and it is over SIXTY YEARS OLD. So, you don't have to have the best and greatest technology to do it.)

So, he went with carbon fiber which works great in a no pressure (e.g. automobiles) or positive pressure situation (e.g. aircraft) to be a cost-effective, lighter substitute for at least some of your titanium or steel. It does NOT work great in a negative pressure, underwater situation which is why it isn't used (except in this case and it ended spectacularly).

Submersibles are so safe, there are no statistics on accidents and such. Until this freakin' thing.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20557 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:15 pm to
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They only had 13 successful dives to Titanic before the implosion and total of 87 dives at various depths.

Doesn't align with fastest suicide in history, or even close. Looks like it took months and months.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22538 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 2:19 pm to
I'm no billionaire. And I have no desire to go thousands of feet below the ocean's surface to look at anything. In fact an unmanned submersible with three or four expensive cameras and lights to record what a human would see is good enough. If we were meant to dive deep, we would be Sperm Whales.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78231 posts
Posted on 7/5/25 at 10:01 pm to
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What about that other guy that died and spent life obsessed with the Titanic? Do y’all think he wanted to die also or knew the increased risk with that lemon sub?


yeah definitly people asked him about what he thought about the shitty aub and he said something like “I have lived a long good life”

That’s an incredibly suicidal response
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 6:47 am to
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I still don’t understand why some people are SO obsessed with titanic. Yes, it’s a crazy story, but who really cares.


Because deep down we have squirrel brain that attracts us to big events with a lot of irony.

It was the grandeur, biggest ship, maiden voyage, the duration of the sinking being that it took quite a long time while in the middle of the Atlantic, the marketing of being an "unsinkable ship" even though a big storm and a rogue wave would probably split it in half just fine. The class warfare where 1st class mostly got off while 3rd class mostly perished. The design of not cluttering the deck with love boats.
Also huge loss of life, 1500 people.

People love thinking about ironic grandiose tragedies. That's why Shakespeare got so big.

In the ship-building sense though, I think it has to do with the ship itself- that White-Star set of Titanic, Olympic and Britannic ocean liners was something special. Just gorgeous ships. They literally don't make them like they used to- there are basically no ocean liners left.
This post was edited on 7/6/25 at 6:52 am
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 6:57 am to
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yeah definitly people asked him about what he thought about the shitty aub and he said something like “I have lived a long good life”

That’s an incredibly suicidal response

PH Nargeolet was that guy.
quote:


Nargeolet replied that he was getting old. He was a grieving widower, whose wife died 5 year prior(although he remarried) and, as he told people several times in recent years, “if you have to go, that would be a good way. Instant.”

“I said, ‘O.K., so you’re ready to fricking die? Is that what it is, P. H.?’ ” Lahey recalled. “And he said, ‘No, no, but I figure that, maybe if I’m out there, I can help them avoid a tragedy.’
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 7/6/25 at 6:58 am to
First was his accountant, second was media person
Posted by BeatingU
Member since Jul 2025
231 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 7:05 am to
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Doesn't align with fastest suicide in history, or even close. Looks like it took months and months.


Suicide prep work vs suicide itself.

You can't beat turning into mist in 2/100th second. I don't think a high explosive can work that quickly, maybe if you're in a confined space perhaps.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5653 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 7:59 am to
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So where the passengers able to take a shite in there during the ride?


Bucket.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86521 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 8:06 am to
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The snaps you hear on his self recorded video of 1st deep test dive at 3900 meters are chilling. I'd be grateful if I came back from that and never go near it again. But he just called it "seasoning" of the hull.

You gotta break it in. Everyone knows that!
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58844 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 9:47 am to
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Documentary made it seem everyone actually involved in this mess knew it was a ticking time bomb.


Everyone did know, there was a reason he only had like one of the original employees still with him by the time of the fatal dive. Everyone else had quit because they wanted no part of it once he refused to listen
This post was edited on 7/6/25 at 9:48 am
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38100 posts
Posted on 7/6/25 at 11:06 am to
Whats your old username? 250 post in 3 days
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