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re: Family of LSU student Max Gruver awarded $6.1 million in damages over hazing death.

Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:45 pm to
I think it is 2 percent of $6.1 million.

Louisiana article 2323 (comparative fault).

I’ll look it up, but that’s what I heard.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:49 pm to
Found the verdict form. Everyone had settled except Ryan Isto. He was apportioned 2% liability.

They can recover $122,000 on that judgment.

Posted by CovingtonTiger
Covington, LA
Member since Oct 2007
562 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:52 pm to
The whole point of the trial was to get the jury to sort out the percentages of fault. Even though there was only one defendant left, apparently, if the jury would have placed 1) or 20% of the blame on him, then the award against his insurer would have been much higher.

I would assume that the only reason this last defendant didn't settle is because, according to the article, the parents felt that he was one of the ring leaders and deserved to have a significant portion of the blame put on him. The jury disagreed as to that point, but awarded a large verdict anyway.

My question is why did LSU settle? The jury, I think correctly, placed all of the blame on the kids. Even though LSU settled, the jury would not be told anything about that, and they could have placed some blame on the university if they wanted to.
Posted by WildBillJR
Member since Nov 2017
67 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:52 pm to
Does anyone know how the parents’ home owners policy covers the lsu student. He is an adult so parents are not liable for his actions. I assume he didn’t own his home and lived on campus
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:56 pm to
LSU was not on the verdict form. Seems like it should have been.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 4:57 pm to
Allstate Canada was defending, right?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 5:01 pm to
Looks like Allstate Canada lost summary judgment on its exclusions, so it is likely covering this.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 5:03 pm to
I don't understand LSU's fault here. LSU can't be at fault for the actions of 40,000 students. Otherwise, why would any insurance company insure them?

If an LSU student murders another LSU student on campus, what is LSU's liability?

If a fraternity member murders another fraternity member, what is LSU's and the fraternity's liability?

These sounds like "hazing" buzzword bullshite to me.
Posted by ErnMcCracken
Member since Jan 2023
267 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 5:44 pm to
They got a funnel since his wasn't hazing
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3704 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 5:49 pm to
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They actually wanted $30 million


I get what happened sucks but that's when I quit supporting the family. I'm glad they'll only receive a small fraction of that.
Posted by EthicalHedonist
Member since Mar 2020
366 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 6:46 pm to
Read the name too quickly and thought the thread was about this guy:

Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 7:11 pm to
Thanks may have changed over the years, but after the last big, huge round of hazing deaths, which occurred in the 80s all the insurance companies canceled and refused to cover any of the great organizations anymore. As a result, all the fraternities had to join together and form their own insurance company essentially And put up. I think it was something like $100 millions for the deductible and then Lloyd’s of London would cover something like to 500 million or so over and above that on claims per year.

Assuming that still the case that means that every fraternity that’s a member of the IFC insurance pack, which is basically everybody still left, would pay for this verdict or decision out of the deductible no matter what the club .
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13091 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 7:15 pm to
I just don’t how targeting someone can ever be considered fair.
Posted by LolStarFishlol
Member since Jan 2023
728 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

defendant didn't settle is because,

It’s probably because his parents live in Canada.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 7:22 pm to
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They found coverage under his parents Allstate homeowners liability policy.


How does that work?

The acts took place on another property.

Was Isto living in his parents home and commuting to school?

I’m still confused how the parent’s homeowners policy is involved.

Explain it to me like I’m 5.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3970 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 7:24 pm to
insurance on multiple levels from several insureds. they will be paid
Posted by LStateU
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
737 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 3:24 pm to
Read carefully, headline is misleading... jury assigned 2% blame to the kid on trial... so they didn't get $6.1M... more like $122k.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2644 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:12 pm to
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I’m gonna sign all my kids up for fraternities and all my old people up for that cable company that got sued

Don't forget to visit the water fountain at Camp Lejeune and talcum up your hoo-ha.
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
7671 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:21 pm to
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I always ran with popular crowds dating back to high school.


I knew you were a cool dude
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2644 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

How does that work?

The acts took place on another property.

Was Isto living in his parents home and commuting to school?

I’m still confused how the parent’s homeowners policy is involved.

Explain it to me like I’m 5.
I've long wondered about that myself. This is not the first time I've heard of homeowner's insurance covering something that completely unrelated to the home or its owner. I guess I've always just assumed that it's B.S., but it's cheaper to pay the claim than defend against it. But WTF does "defending against the claim" even consist of? It's basically a "sir, this is a Wendy's" situation.
This post was edited on 3/11/23 at 4:25 pm
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