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re: Family forged a will for my father.

Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by tigerclaw10
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:37 pm to
Rumpoast I sure hope we aren’t meeting in the near future
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:37 pm to
Tigerclaw. They are correct that you should interview/depose all who witnessed the supposed will. Your dad signed it, so get a handwriting expert to look at it (find some old stuff your dad signed so he can compare.) It's hard, but that is how you traverse a bogus will....
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:38 pm to
If it's not notarized, they obviously have a problem. If it is, your attorney would want to follow up with the notary.
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:38 pm to
Is that you Mr. Platsmeier?
Posted by cable
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:39 pm to
opposing client "it's a fake will"

client "it's real"

verify it. check witnesses and notary. Due Diligence.

Otherwise deal with the Disciplinary Board
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:40 pm to
Only 2 ways you can do a will these days in Louisiana. Not sure about Texas. But form matters. If it isn't right, will probably be thrown out....
Posted by Negatiger1986
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:41 pm to
Everyone is saying to get an attorney - but if the father’s estate is only 20k - not sure how the cost/benefit analysis is gonna work out in that.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

opposing client "it's a fake will"

client "it's real"

verify it. check witnesses and notary. Due Diligence.

Otherwise deal with the Disciplinary Board


Disagree. I think you can meet your article 863 obligations by presenting a will in the proper form and your client verifiying the petition via affidavit. Now if someone challenges it and you have to traverse it then you may have an obligation to dig deeper to represent your client, but I don’t think 863 requires you to go that deep on the initial filing.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:45 pm to
Thank you Boosie. But Cable is clearly Chuck Platsmeier......so tread lightly....
Posted by Southof10Tiger
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:45 pm to
I’m not an attorney, just wondering, is the will for real property or personal property? You said he was renting if I remember correctly.

If this is a will for personal property, I understand your frustration, however this seems like an expensive undertaking to fight it on principal.

If this is for real property, then I would proceed. But you will need an attorney skilled in real estate and probate. Texas is a lien-theory state and relies on a deed-of-trust to establish ownership of land. This is assuming there was a loan used to acquire the property and it wasn’t paid for in cash. Deeds-of-trust are usually recorded in the county of the property and if there is a lien, then whoever holds the lien will have a representative present at probate.

Sounds like there is a chance you could prove the will is voidable if it was done under duress or the influence of medication.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 8:52 pm
Posted by cable
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:47 pm to
IDK - I've seen this happen in my jurisdiction. Your mileage may vary.
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:48 pm to
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Rumpoast I sure hope we aren’t meeting in the near future ?


I just realized what you were saying.....nah....don't worry, I'm only licensed in Louisiana. Haven't seen a Texas will in some time (if ever....)
Posted by tigerclaw10
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:51 pm to
No sir. Sounds good to go
Posted by Nephropidae
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:52 pm to
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Everyone is saying to get an attorney - but if the father’s estate is only 20k - not sure how the cost/benefit analysis is gonna work out in that.
yeh was just thinking the same thing. If you have time and care enough you can fight it on principle but otherwise this seems to not be worth it from a financial standpoint.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:53 pm to
There’s gotta be more to that story then.
Posted by TigerIron
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 5:09 pm
Posted by rumproast
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 8:59 pm to
I tell clients I will argue the "principle of the matter" for $250 an hour all day long. Not sure the circumstances here....but do need to evaluate whether the cost of fighting is worth it. Sad to say...
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted by tigerclaw10
My house
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:00 pm to
He’s only got 2 vehicles and about $7500. My siblings wanted the vehicles I was gonna take the cash and buy a mower and put his name on it. He loved to cut the grass
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:02 pm to
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Had not heard anything about my uncle for years until he was recently charged for killing a woman. I’d like to stay away from that crazy. Unfortunately even though some of us grow to be successful adults, us unlucky ones are stuck with shite bags for family.



Sorry for your loss.

Does uncle own property your dad rented? Wondering if removing stuff he wants already, but also what rights a the kids have to access property after a parent passed away.

Uncle sounds like a piece of crap even before mentioning he was charged with killing a girl.

Like others said get a lawyer and stay away from personal interaction with uncle. Not sure what assets are in play including at house, but i wouldn’t put it past the uncle to fake a will or even have tricked your father into signing something he may not have realized. He and the others are probably relying on not being challenged, and i would not give him the satisfaction.

I would also try to make a list of items you remember being at the house.
Posted by tigerclaw10
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Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:06 pm to
My uncle does not own the property but has been staying there because he works for the same guy who was renting them the house.
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