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re: Fake Jet Engine Parts Ground American, Southwest, United Planes as Scandal Grows

Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:23 pm to
This is fricked up.

quote:

AOG Technics

Needs to be burned to the ground.
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1901 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:25 pm to
Why am I not surprised! With our president, he's probably working on a large payoff to give to the forgers so they will make all this bad publicity go away!
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:27 pm to
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Why are the parts being called fake if it is just the certification? The parts themselves are probably fine


My guess is the metallurgy and failure testing was faked so they are not what they were represented to be anymore so than any other knockoff.

Is a $40 buck Folex not fake just because it is an actual watch?
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4815 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:36 pm to
Metallurgy by guys wearing flip flops and bathing suits doing their best to make cast parts look like forged ones, or machined one etc…
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19543 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:38 pm to
Unalived men don’t talk.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98769 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:45 pm to
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Everything dealing with a plane is logged. Every single minute of maintenance and parts are put into that plane's logbook down to the last bolt. Without the certification, there is no telling if they are real or where they originated from. Huge no-no.


Everyone chooses where they want big government control, this is my hill
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3234 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Metallurgy by guys wearing flip flops and bathing suits doing their best to make cast parts look like forged ones, or machined one etc…


Having spent a lifetime inspecting these airfoils I can tell you a seasoned inspector can detect the difference between a forged and cast blade within seconds.
Hell most of the time we could tell the forging houses apart on the same blade p/n’s without prior knowledge of which casting house made which blade. QA/QC is not the same at all places, nor are the inspectors.
These fields of endeavor are not for everyone…
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4989 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:50 pm to
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I wonder if counterfeit turbine parts are marked with those ridiculous Chinese branding names we see on rather generic Amazon products. Like Xoomycompresoryumyum or Aerplaynfuntimego for example.


Rols Roiyce
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12733 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:50 pm to
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Since one faulty part could bring down a plane, that's not great.


Especially if my butt is on it.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20279 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:52 pm to
It’s like ordering a 4 wheeler carb off Amazon vs having a deal replace with OEM parts. It may work fine but your chances of getting a lemon that leaves you stranded in the woods increases significantly.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26180 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 5:57 pm to
Many components on an aircraft are life limited parts and are accompanied with a historical (hard) card and a serviceability tag. These can be limited by calendar, hours and cycles as determined by the manufacturer. When these parts reach their limits, they are removed, inspected, overhauled or retired from service until the required maintenance to determine continued service is performed. When retired, entries are made on the custody card and the affected part(s) are destroyed.
Also, another issue is military parts that find their way into the civil side of aviation. There are exceptions to their use, but many operators will not accept these parts on their equipment.
The problem arises when some of these parts are not manufactured by the strict requirements of the manufacturer or parts that should have been inspected, overhauled or retired have found their way back in service with falsified documents and no required maintenance performed.
It's been an issue for a long time and despite operators vigilance, it still happens.


This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4815 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:00 pm to
Being a little facetious about disguising the processing. If only people were to put as much time into good work as they do into scamming.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138170 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by HeyCap
Member since Nov 2014
1018 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:25 pm to
Ask yourself if you want to be crossing the Pacific or Atlantic on a 16+ hour flight with only 2 engines equipped with fake parts.
Or a max weight takeoff in mountainous terrain?
Not a warm and fuzzy feeling for me.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61320 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:34 pm to
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Why are the parts being called fake if it is just the certification? The parts themselves are probably fine


Why hello Mr AOG Technics CEO!
Posted by phil good
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1686 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:40 pm to
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AOG Technics


I'm the aviation world aog stands for aircraft on ground
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100796 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:43 pm to
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The parts themselves are probably fine That’s not what you want to rely on when you’re cruising at 35,000 feet doing 600 MPH.


Yea I’m the first to hate unnecessary regulation but airplane parts are something that quality needs to be ensured
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30047 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:53 pm to
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Yea I’m the first to hate unnecessary regulation but airplane parts are something that quality needs to be ensured


The problem is Goldilocks doesn't control regulation. Half of the people like deregulation right up until it bites them in the arse and the other half loves regulation up until it bites them in the arse.
Posted by Guess
Down The Road
Member since Jun 2009
3972 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 6:58 pm to
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If the parts are fine, why were they forging certification documents?


Certs are expensive and come with a lot of red tape to get them. It is possible that the parts are quality, but no one in their right mind should deliberately use them on a fricking jet engine.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14755 posts
Posted on 9/25/23 at 7:02 pm to
WEF/UN agenda 2030
Sabotage the flight industry in name of climate change.
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