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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80815 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:51 am to
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I just don’t understand the desire to tear shite down. If something has been part of the landscape for a century, then I really don’t care what/who it “endorses.” It’s a piece of history, and obviously the voters of the time weren’t bothered by it when it was erected, so who am I to judge their decisions of their time in my current time?
Because the Left thinks like the Taliban. "Centuries old statue of Buddha? Don't like! Blow it up."
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:51 am to
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American Legion, the veterans organization that helped raise money to build it.


Not a government funded memorial. Not the government's business.

I am as big of a proponent of separation of church and state there is, but this was built using private funds.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:52 am to
Why not?
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16214 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:54 am to
The monument won't be torn down, it would likely be moved private property near its original location. No one would be taking a wrecking ball to it. Would the meaning of it change if it was moved private property?
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:55 am to
Shut the frick up.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26809 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:57 am to
3 fricking residents are butthurt over this, so they wanna tear it down? How about a city vote if they feel that way.....not take shite like this to the SCOTUS.

People are rediculous and will do anything for attention. If the court doesn’t overturn the appeals court, our country is fricked faster then I thought possible
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87727 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:58 am to
Religious symbols that have achieved non-religious meaning over time should be left alone.

Any reasonable person agrees with this.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80815 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:58 am to
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Shut the frick up
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26809 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:59 am to
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The monument won't be torn down, it would likely be moved private property near its original location. No one would be taking a wrecking ball to it. Would the meaning of it change if it was moved private property?


And what about Arlington Cemetery.....where they going to move all those crosses and bodies that are on federal property??
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139214 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:01 am to
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And what about Arlington Cemetery.....where they going to move all those crosses and bodies that are on federal property??

I'm sure the folks at the Humanist association will do the work of chiseling all the crosses of the stones. Of course the star and crescents and stars of David will be left alone
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16214 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:07 am to
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And what about Arlington Cemetery.....where they going to move all those crosses and bodies that are on federal property??



Arlington shows no preference to any one religion. Many symbols from almost every religion exist for a family to choose from. Separation of church and state is about showing preference to one religion.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52630 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:08 am to
This will be overturned. Kavanaugh insures it.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12942 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:07 am to
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Seems to me like refusing to protect something or specifically targeting something only because it is a religious item would actually be the State interfering with religious matters.


This^
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:08 am to
Speaking as a progressive and atheist, the person, or people, that brought this case are fricking idiots. There are a myriad of situations where religion leaks into politics and governance which are worth going after...a memorial cross is not one of those situations.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53591 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:12 am to
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The state did not pay nor construct the monument. Therefore, there is no constitutional violation. Just whining by regressives who don't understand the constitution.


That’s what I am trying to figure out: Where is the state in this? If it’s on government land in in Arlington I can get it though.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53591 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:15 am to
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Why does the religion of those looking at the memorial matter?


Because muh feelings
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53591 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:18 am to
BTW, it appears the precise state/religion connection being used is that public funds maintain it.

This item that’s on the Historic Landmark registry as well.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:23 am to
Slippery slope of lost cause and civil war memorials.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:25 am to
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Government and religion shouldn’t mix.



Government was never supposed to be a-religious, or devoid of any. It is not allowed to establish a state or preferred religion...or prohibit the free exercise thereof.

There is no such thing as freedom from religion. Find something better to do than bitch about stuff like this.

In b4 "bible thumper." I don't do church.
Posted by WallsAllAroundMe
Member since Jan 2016
1065 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:28 am to
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